http://dubtalia-ap.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] dubtalia-ap.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] hetalia2012-11-27 08:59 pm

Hetalia Season 5 Design Fake?

On Tumblr, someone had posted an image that said the new designs of the Hetalia characters are fake.



According to the post, they said the new designs were just fanart in celebration for Animate Girls Festival 2012 to sell their merchandise. It is confirmed that Studio DEEN have a new staff of design and drawing, but it is not the ones we have seen on the Hetalia's home website. The one shown there is probably only advertising the event.

Here is the image of the post:

Links provided here are as follows

Hetalia News

Animate Ikebukuro

Animate Girls Festival 2012

EDIT: Suitcase mentioned up above I posted here.

I rather not post the name of the original poster on Tumblr, but I want to be sure if this was true or false.

[identity profile] khcrazeexd42.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
If the designs had to do with the Animate Girls Festival, why would they be on the official Hetalia site and not have any notification that the designs were fanart?

[identity profile] tarafishes.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
This. The official site has never put up fanart to my knowledge, and I'm sure it would've said it was if so.

Also the Allies picture was published in Birz as an advertisement.

It says right at the top of the page "連合のTHE BEAUTIFULキービジュアル"
That is "The Beautiful World's Allies Key Visual". "The Beautiful World" is the title of the next season--and if it were just about the seiyuu they wouldn't have said "visual"? (They also say "key visual" on the page with the Axis from in Birz.)

[identity profile] tarafishes.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Also Birz addressed the AGF stuff but that was a separate section of the article and was pretty much just for the backpack as far as I'm aware.

The images on the suitcase are Himaruya's art, not anime art. They aren't new. In fact, those're the chibis from on Volume 5's cover. They probably won't be on any more merchandise than usual.

Maybe just don't? Really they'd be proven wrong in two months anyway.

[identity profile] tarafishes.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
It's even more debunked then. @~@

It's good most people don't believe it--I mean, it's pretty ridiculous? Either way, they'll be disproven in due time, if not by someone with stronger Japanese skills than mine, than by the actual release of the new season. (Hell, there'll probably more art releases or previews before then. . . .)

Really, besides lowering people's hopes/disappointing them, it's not doing a lot of harm. Besides spreading a pretty bad rumor.

I mean, I remember going and looking around 2channel threads one day and they were talking about the art if I recall right(even linked to it) so that's even more against them.

[identity profile] landcow.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
The designs being fake seems highly unlikely to me. The new Axis designs are on the official anime website (http://hetalia.com/index.htm), and the designs for the Allies were printed in Birz. Not sure why the OP of that image would jump to conclusions like that...

[identity profile] landcow.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
That's definitely for the best. All sorts of nasty things are said willy nilly over there. :\
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[personal profile] anubismito 2012-11-28 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Well, as the people said, if it was fake, it shouldn't be in the Official site nor the Birz magazine...
Second, the image that this girl/guy put on tumblr is almost illegible, maybe it doesn't matter at all, but I can't see it seriousthere used fanarts, but it was posted some months before the 5th season was announced. Is not the new one.
third, the staff is listed in the site, and if you see the desings of them, they really have resemblance with the new Hetalia style.

Sadly I noticed that some hetaliards on tumblr seems that like to bash Hetalia... I remember when some months ago one of them submitted something from a 2ch japanese forum about Himaruya being a woman (so what's the problem?) that posted real and confidential information of him!! (and after that, he disappeared again from the net... I hope it was only for all the works he has to do)... Even though that real info wasn't posted on Tumblr.

i still don't understand why some followers attack Hetalia and Himaruya... If they are fans, supposedly they should support it... isn't it???

Sorry for my English.
Edited 2012-11-28 03:17 (UTC)
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[personal profile] gramarye1971 2012-11-29 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
One would be Studio DEEN's old artwork. The anatomy people commented on their work from things like wallscrolls, posters, or even Hetalia episodes were all negative. They should just be happy a company had a chance to animate their favorite webcomic/manga series.

I don't see why we should be happy to get inferior products, though. I'm not an artist myself, but my friends who are artists say that badly drawn anatomy is really hard for them to look at -- it jumps out at you, like reading a fanfic where someone constantly spells the characters' names wrong. It's not too much to ask that a professional animation studio use decent quality control on its official products, rather than rushing them out in a haste to cash in on the fandom. It's why I generally don't buy Hetalia goods with anime artwork; I can't justify spending money on something that's poorly done just because it's related to Hetalia in some way.

I felt the same way about the subtitles that Funimation posted on its official web releases: character names were spelled wrong, translations were clunky, the subtitle timing was off in certain places. It was sloppy work, and should have been caught by quality control. Funimation has had a terrible reputation among long-time anime fans for its often slipshod subtitling and dubbing work, but since it's one of the few remaining licensing companies there's not much that can be done about it.

*steps off soapbox*
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[personal profile] anubismito 2012-11-28 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Oops, I did a mess here:

", but I can't see it seriousthere used fanarts, but it was posted some months before the 5th season was announced. Is not the new one.".

It should say ", but I can't see it seriously, there was an event like this where were used fanarts, but it was posted some months before the 5th season was announced. Is not the new one.".

[identity profile] osoroshia.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
lolwat
Aah, people. So silly.


dhdfgdh though suitcase. Please get here soon.

[identity profile] rikkaidai-fuji.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
this is just the post and the comment I need to start my day
I'm trying to sum up the whole thing I should say regarding *how wrong* it is
but the texts in that post...I can barely digest it

[identity profile] osoroshia.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
:'D It's $147 after shipping.

B-but.
Monday.
Or maybe even Friday.
It'll be worth it.

[identity profile] osoroshia.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
nope, nope. Second wave ships in December. I ordered back in October-ish, when the online release date was claimed to be November 30th.
:O Movic shipped it way earlier than planned, and it should be with me by this coming Monday at the latest~

I'll make sure to get pictures and write up a little review. =w=

[identity profile] mydroggie.livejournal.com 2012-11-30 11:58 am (UTC)(link)
i want to see those pics! looking forward to your review.
if customs wasnt a bish here, i would get that suitcase =(

[identity profile] osoroshia.livejournal.com 2012-11-30 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
/o/

If it happens to show up today, then my post might be over on [livejournal.com profile] hetalia_sell instead, just to not spam up the front page.
No way of knowing yet, though-- it's left customs, but the tracking pages never update this early in the morning ;w;

[identity profile] osoroshia.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 06:05 am (UTC)(link)
Oh.
Or release date was just "November" in general. I think the 30th was just the time my service guessed they'd have it by.
Still.

xD But yeah. Shipping was killer. $80 on top of the $70 it already cost...
Really hoping it does turn out to be worth it.

[identity profile] rikkaidai-fuji.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 05:06 am (UTC)(link)
this person might not understand what the whole announcement birz has
yet that "anime girl fest. fanart"
fanart by whom..?
and if it's a fanart, why it's in all over the official sites and birz magazines
I'm afraid this person got it wrongly
the picture of Italy design in season 5 was posted whileee ago before AGF12
I honestly want to know what-how this person thinks
this is one of the best conspiracy theory of hetalia I've ever heard

[identity profile] rikkaidai-fuji.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
I understand you don't want to post their names here, but I'm as well, in the journey to the centre of the tumblr to find it

this is funny actually since when I look around tumblr, I saw A LOT of mistakes like saying someone's fan coloured hetalia 5th volume introduction page as Hima's colouring, saying that page as season 5 official art... I kinda got a headache looking at all of them

...this links saying the designs are fake, I'm curious about this...which links I'D

hetalia.com's news page doesn't have season 5 thing since it seems they'll make another section to seperate 1-4 with 5~

[identity profile] rikkaidai-fuji.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
found it, dealing with it, I'll see more about it but I think you don't need to delete it
we're 101% sure it's real
I got more information in my hands for hetalia 5th season from the newest birz
I just need someone to translate it I guess

[identity profile] kaoarika.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
Huh. I'm wondering why this post got more attention one month LATER it was originally posted.

But I also think it is pure fan bashing because people always want to find something bad. The pic was posted in the official page before the scan appeared (or that I seem to remember).

So... it's pure question of logic: Why an official website would be using fanart to promote a new season that it's going to be released in less of two months? I THINK I have seen enough preview art from ANYWHERE in existence (sites, scans) that I know it is official preview art from an anime series that is in the works or it's going to start airing soon. Also, Japanese magazines CREDITS the ones that realized the illustrations in the first place. Gentosha or even Hima would be the ones who would be stating in the first place if it was fanart, isn't it?

In fact, I don't know how it is usual when one of the biggest stores of anime merchandising in Japan uses fanart for promotion of an event for fans, when the last Hetalia related fan event (the Hetalia-related Animate Café) used official anime art. Especially when one of the merchandising HAS official (but previously released) art from Himaruya himself.

And I DO NOT THINK that Gentosha, Studio Deen or any animation studios or manga publishers like to trick/troll their own fans like this as a 'conspiracy' against them. Yes, we know that the anime staff was changed, if this wasn't proof enough for that little detail of the art of a taste of what are we going to see in January. but going so far with no strong evidence of this 'fake' claiming?

[identity profile] kaoarika.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
Also, AGF is one of the biggest events for any fangirl or girl into otome games, nice guys and the like. Just looking at the exhibitors page you can see BIG NAMES that works for that comm. From what I know, the same companies provide OFFICIAL ART for promotion.

This isn't any official Doujinshi event. This isn't the Comiket. I don't know why people assume like 'OH NOES, THE ANIMATION STUDIOS IS AGAINST US' or something like that.

Also, think about it: why SO SUDDENLY, is seems like the merchandising with the old Deen art is like 'throwing themselves from the window' with the release of the new season?

[identity profile] lost-hitsu.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 07:29 am (UTC)(link)
The text above both allies and axis in these pages here (http://misawashi.tumblr.com/post/35118887044/december-birz-hetalia-new-anime-art-pages-for-the) say "Introduction of the characters' key visuals for season 5 beautiful world", what, according to my humble knowledge of the technical terms, mean the basic designs for the new series. It's true the one page with allies has an announcement about the event, as well as that the event is selling hetalia suitcase merchandising, but there is no indication about the designs having anything to do with the event itself.

[identity profile] mad-kitty12.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
As everyone made their comment saying how fake this information is, it remains to me only one remark.

Never trust someone who uses COMIC SAAAANS!

[identity profile] psanon.livejournal.com 2012-11-28 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
At first I was WTFing at this, but now I'm just laughing my head off. Oh god.
Edited 2012-11-28 17:16 (UTC)

[identity profile] vodkaholik.livejournal.com 2012-11-29 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
:(