http://gerita825.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] gerita825.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] hetalia2011-01-23 01:43 am
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Question: Ancient Greece

So, a friend told me that she read on Hetalia wiki that Mama Greece was murdered. I just want someone to clarify that Mama Greece was murdered. Because I dont remember anything on canon mentioning that. Perhaps a link to a comic strip or some blog entry please?
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[identity profile] darkangel160.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_minor_characters_in_Axis_Powers_Hetalia#Ancient_Greece

Her entry on the Hetalia wiki claims that Turkey is the one who killed her after the fall of the Byzantine Empire

[identity profile] curlee1029.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Interesting question!

There actually isn't any canon Hetalia evidence that she was murdered nor are there any strips about this. (Heck, I don't even think Mama Greece has an official design yet, but she might, idk. Correct me if I'm wrong.)The theories on her death are pretty much fanon mixed with historical stuff.

Historically, the theory of Mama Greece being murdered at the hands of the Ottoman Empire is incorrect. The Byzantine Empire was, in fact, what was left of the Roman Empire. The Greek Empire had collapse at least by the time Rome was in his hey day, which was long before Byzantine ever existed. So, from a historical point of view, Ancient Greece died from "old age", similiar to Ancient Rome's demise.

However, in the Hetalia universe, the nation-tan Ancient Greece could've very well been assasinated by Turkey. She, as a person, could've merely been a subject under Rome's control, as opposed to dissapearing with her empire. Once Rome fell, she could've then become the Byzantine Empire (which was mostly in Greece). If that's the case, the yes: She was murdered.

On the other hand, Himaruya could give Byzantine its own nation-tan, which would mean that the more historical death was Mama Greece's fate and the nation-tan of Byzantine Empire was the one murdered by the Turks.

At the end of the day, it's debatable and will only be confirmed with what Hima-san gives us, whenever that may be. I hope my (not so) little comment helped to clear some things up if you were confused.^^

[identity profile] pentha.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually Rome didn't die of old age or when Ancient Rome dissolved.

He was murdered by Germania and he was around with Chibitalia.

Which means he was also the Western Roman Empire and existed at least till 500AD.

[identity profile] curlee1029.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
:headdesk: I'm such a fail, aren't I? I'm sorry. It's been awhile since I studied Ancient history stuff.

[identity profile] hotaru13.livejournal.com 2011-01-24 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Uh... It was my understanding that Rome grew so large and powerful that he couldn't support himself anymore and collapsed. That's what I gathered from the Chibitalia comics anyway.
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[personal profile] fh14 2011-01-23 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Why does no one know we've moved to shoutwiki and the wikia site is dead? /weeps

[identity profile] sketchy333.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, the hetalia wiki has it all. But it might be helpful to know that, since the CD was not released, it can't exactly be counted as official. However, it was written by Mr. Himaruya, so you can decide on that.

Now I'm just talking in circles. /facepalm/
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[personal profile] fh14 2011-01-23 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The CD was released actually. It was a mail-order thing like the Hetalia Fantasia CDs.

[identity profile] sketchy333.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I just figured that out. Thank you for telling me. I don't know too much about this thing honestly, and my apologies to anyone who gets confused by me. >

[identity profile] gerita825.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Waitwaitwait, what CD would this be may I ask? Like the title.

[identity profile] sketchy333.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if you look at the wiki link in the comments and scroll to Mama Greece's section, there's a link that leade to here: http://hetalia.wikia.com/wiki/Axis_Powers_Hetalia:_The_CD

It just goes by the name of "Axis Powers Hetalia: The CD." And apparently I misread it, as it was released. But it's not an official CD, if I am reading this right. Eh, I don't know. I've honestly haven't heard too much of this anyways. Sorry if I'm confusing/don't make sense.
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[personal profile] fh14 2011-01-23 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Basically it was an independent CD written by Himaruya that was recorded in 2007 (before Hetalia got the anime and drama cds and stuff). Its from the Code of the Flower of Iris, the same people that did the voices for the Gakuen Hetalia demo.

/weeps once more that no one notices we moved to shoutwiki

[identity profile] kisekichibi.livejournal.com 2011-01-23 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
...There were voices in the Gakuen Hetalia demo?
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