Queston Regarding Scotland

[ketsudan.livejournal.com]

Hey everyone! I got a question that is very important for a fanfic I am writing.

Would you say that with the Union Act of 1707 Scotland basically destroyed itself (meaning that "Scotland" the "country" no longer exists like the "Roman Empire" no longer exists), or that she just moved in and became a permanent resident of England's house?

I have been doing a lot of research, and I am not sure which one it is because the Scottish people still have their own laws, church, and a few other things, but technically the whole main island of Great Britain is called "The United Kingdom" a.k.a. "England" and Scotland is more like California in the US in that it is not it's own separate state.

It's all kind of confusing. Some say that "Scotland" is no longer her own country (thus "destroyed") and others say that she's just under England's rule and they're trying to get independence so they can be their own nation again but....... AJLASSADJ;L DDD:

Anyone who can give some input or give links to articles that could help me decide between these two will be loved forever and ever!

Comments

[mccarthief.livejournal.com]

You could argue that the Union happened as soon as James the VI (of Scotland) was asked to come down to England and rule there (as James the I) after the death of Elizabeth. I'm pretty sure he did try and get an act relating to the Union past but it was knocked down.

Anyway considering that the ruler who pushed this act was Anne Stuart, you could also say that it was Scotland's choice to 'take over' England no big freaky eyebrows from Scotland like the rest of his brothers xD. I'm sure it was either her or her sister Mary II that had the act passed that prevented any Catholics from taking the throne, literally stopping any other children their father James II (a Catholic who was forced off the throne for being a prat) had from becoming King, which was how the crown was passed to the Hanover family after Anne's death. It also haunted them through the Jacobite wars as it completely divided Scotland in various ways (heck, some towns in Northern England where fighting for Bonny Prince Charles while towns from Highland Scotland were against, it's that messed up).

Nowadays, while Scotland is still a part of the Union, since 1999 Scotland has devolved into having it's own parliament. It doesn't have control of everything that happens but focuses more on what only Scotland would be interested in.

Curiously, since Labour took over from the Conservatives in the 1997 election; the UK has been run by Scots. First Tony Blair (yes, you heard me) and now Gordon Brown...though Brown is the only one that has really received any complaints because he's Scottish but that might just be down to the current economic climate and the need of a scapegoat.

But, yeah, Scotland's still around. Trying to run two different governments and find a chance to kill America over fucking up his Economic system...again.

[ketsudan.livejournal.com]

*nods* A lot of stuff happened when he was called down to rule England (which is why he is getting a big section in a future fanfic, not to mention Mary's secret contract that bound Scotland to France should she die without having a kid first), and even after that I guess (gonna be doing more research, no worries). Especially on the Jacobite wars.

But haha, really? Awesome. I guess good things do come to those who wait. Although, I hope people back off and don't use him as a scapegoat; we've seen what happens when people do that before.

[mccarthief.livejournal.com]

Well, Mary's mother was French and she had been sent to France to marry Francis II instead of England's Edward VI so her connection to France were stronger...and quickly cut after her death. The Jacobit wars (especially the one with Bonny Prince Charles) is awkward because of how many other countries were involved, the guy himself was Italian and could speak more Polish than English if I recall correctly...

The Brown thing is frustrating because I'm sure if I was to look up the history of PM there's going to be a lot more Scots...

[ketsudan.livejournal.com]

*nods* Other countries do seems to muddle up things far too easily, don't they?

And I am sure too; I once read in a history book where the President's family were from, and quite a few were Scottish & English as opposed to German or something.