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hetalia2009-11-23 01:46 am
Countries and bosses
Or, well, not exactly.
What I'm wondering, because I had I brilliant and mildly weird idea, and it's in the middle of the night, and I got kind of caught up in it, IS: ... or wait, no. Not a question because I'm too tired to get my brain around that.
Example instead: Prussia obsesses over Frederick the Great, and then there's France and Jeanne d'Arc, and aha, I knew my mind would catch up: do any of the other nations have bosses or just someone of their people that they can't forget, or are really obsessed with, or have conflicted feelings about? Like Russia and the Romanovs.
Who do you think they are? It doesn't have to be one person, can be many, and it doesn't have too be a person that the nation has only positive memories of, right? Just someone they remember and can't forget about.
That being said, I can't help but feel that Sweden is a massive Gustav Adolf fanboy. Of course he is.
But what do you think?
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Finland
- was totally bros with John III back when he was the duke of Finland (John was only 18 when he first came to Finland, and they did all kinds of boy stuff together)
- had a distant crush on Catherine Jagiellon
- felt like an honorary uncle to Sigismund (son of the two above people btw.), even after he was dethroned - cue conflicted feelings
- had a mutually tsundere relationship with Per Brahe, but deep down they cared a lot for each other
- fanboyed Alexander II so much it was like an infatuation (and borderline embarrassing for Alexander)
- was somewhat scared of Urho Kekkonen, but also completely emotionally dependent on him
Sweden
- thought Gustav Vasa was one scary guy, but he also made Sweden feel strong, so he clinged to him
- was slowly going nuts even himself when ruled by the crazy king Eric XIV
- had such a boycrush on Gustav II Adolf it's not even funny except it is. And never got over it.
- hated Gustav III's fashion sense. With passion. (Because Gustav forced him to follow it.) And felt iffy about the guy's dictatorial rule as well, up until the Anjala conspiracy, when he felt Finland was going simply too far and took Gustav's side.
- saw Per Albin Hansson as a kind father figure
- won't be quite over Olof Palme's death for a long time
Russia
- was scared shitless of Ivan the Terrible, but also thought Ivan was his only guarantee of safety, and tried to be tough to make him happy. Ivan's reign was the point when he seriously started going insane. He still sometimes hears Ivan's voice talking to him, or thinks he does.
- a bit like that with Stalin, too
- admired Peter the Great a lot but wished he didn't make him cosplay Holland and move his capital around... (but he didn't dare to do anything oppose him, though Peter's new ideas drove him nuts sometimes, in that less scary way)
It's like everybody has someone in their history who scared them but kept them safe from outer enemies... and they had a screwed up relationship to that person.
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Because I can't stand Johan III, but like his crazy brothers (all three of them). Which is irrelevant. I can sort of imagine Sweden being mildly crazy not just under Erik, but Gustav Vasa, Johan, Sigismund and Karl IX too (especially the last two - civil war, yeah), even if Johan was probably the sanest of them. Insanity in the family, woho. :P
But I can't imagine Sweden hating GIII. He'd be conflicted, as Gustav was liked by people in general, just disliked among the nobility because of his little coup. Plus the assassination.
Agreeing on Per Albin Hansson and Palme though. Soso much. Same with Anna Lindh as with Palme too.
I can kind of imagine Russia having a really selective memory when it comes to Stalin, fanboying him, and ignoring a great deal of what he did. Hrm. Oh, the ideas this gives me.
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I like so very dearly all of Gustav Vasa's troubled offspring, crazy rulers are so much fun when they're safely four centuries away from me. <3
Could be true with Stalin, especially during the Soviet time after his death.
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No country's history is complete without crazy rulers. Small mercies Magnus never became king, considering.
Stalin, yes, but I was thinking of something more recent: http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSTRE4BR17620081228
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but yeah...I guess people forget the bad things way to fast and see only the good things he managed for their land...
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P.S. I really tired from such stupid articles. This poll wasn't about popularity. It was about influence on the country and people. I think it's clear that Stalin had great influence.
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and yes, Stalin's influence surely was HUGE!
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Magnus was a sweetheart (a homicidal one, but still). He's what really makes the family larger than life - without him, they'd've been an entertaining bunch of psychos, but with him, they're an entertaining bunch of psychos with heart. :)
We should be friends, Y/N?
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Magnus was also apparently an arachnophobic homicidal sweetheart. His coffin hangs in chains from the ceiling in the crypt. It makes me go awwww. Seriously. So adorable. And insane.
We should yes. :)
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That's very cute and very crazy, yes. I didn't know that. :D
Gonna establish diplomatic relations, brb.