ext_171440 ([identity profile] m-dono.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] hetalia2009-03-13 03:20 pm
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[Question] Japan's Atomic Accidents

Since China's scar behind his back stands for the Rape of Nanking, I was wondering if Japan had anything of the sort.

A lot of us know that there were two atomic bombs that hit Japan on August 6 and 9 of 1945 ordered by President Harry Truman, these two being named "Little Boy" and "Fat Man" respectively. I ask if Japan-tan has any sort of physical, emotional, mental, etc. representation of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki? 

Thank you all for your cooperation!

[identity profile] pentha.livejournal.com 2009-03-13 09:12 am (UTC)(link)
Are you sure about China's scar?
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[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2009-03-13 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm thinking that's got more to do with the post-WWII behavior of Japan, and I've never seen any literature with the idea that Japan was afraid of more bombs.

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2009-03-13 04:12 pm (UTC)(link)
And anyway, at the first meeting, wasn't it before WWI?

[identity profile] liyosa.livejournal.com 2009-03-14 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Japan agrees with America, since America basically bent over backwards to "atone" for the mess that they made in Japan, i.e. they wanted a strong democratic ally in Asia to vs. China and the rest of the Communists. Also: until recently (and I think even now) America still has troops stationed in Japan, which every so often causes a hindrance (parents getting pissed because the Americans are hitting on their daughters like horny weasels in the heat and other problems and so on). Basically, Japan does owe a lot economically to the US due to the US helping its infrastructure out to have an economy that mirrors (but is not exactly) like America's.

as an IMO, I think Japan sees Hiroshima more like a loss of face than willing to put blame on America. It doesn't matter how brutally the enemy kills one, but it is a serious blow to pride. Hence all the movies (including this creepy one with vague submarine phallic imagery that my friend had to watch). But my interpretation may be way off the mark.

I was also under the impression that this is post-WWII, especially since the nations seem to be functioning well together (I'm assuming it's a UN nations meeting?) and the subject they are discussing, environmentalism, really isn't something people worried about back then.

Hope this helps :D sorry about the ranting. :D

[identity profile] xue.livejournal.com 2009-03-14 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
There are still army bases.
They cause problems when American soldiers or Americans do crime (rape, kill, steal, etc.) and run into the bases, because by American law, the Japanese police force can't go in there. :S

[identity profile] blossommorphine.livejournal.com 2009-03-14 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
I have always believed that Japan agreed with America on that because the only naiton that loves giant robots more than America is Japan.

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[identity profile] cloud-riven.livejournal.com 2009-03-13 09:38 am (UTC)(link)
As far as physical scarring goes, the comics haven't shown any. You also have to understand that the WWII storyline hasn't been finished either, so Himaruya hasn't drawn any direct results to those bombings yet.

Also, as far as mental and/or emotional scarring goes, I suppose that's up to the reader's interpretation until Himaruya covers that himself.

[identity profile] eruraito.livejournal.com 2009-03-13 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
To begin with, I'm not very good at English and I don't want to argue. Gomen nasai.

The truth is, Ni-ni(China)'s scar stands for the First Sino-Japanese War.
Moreover, the translation of "the Story of China and Teensy Japan" here in hetalia (http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/) has some mistakes in it.
Some people and me have pointed some of them out in the post already though. I found a few more, after I had commented there. I thought that too much correction would make me look like a liar or a revisionist, I wouldn't do more.
So, could any other translators check the strip out or translate it again, please?

And, I don't know whether Japan has a representation of the bombs.
As far as I know, Himaruya-san has never drawn or mentioned it.

[identity profile] pentha.livejournal.com 2009-03-13 10:55 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, in the context of that strip, the scar being about the First Sino-Japanese War makes more sense. That and I'd expect the Nanking massacre to leave a far worse wound.

[identity profile] haya5h1.livejournal.com 2009-03-13 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know ahout Japan's scars, and I don't mean to sound like a troll, but I fail to see how the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were "accidents."

Chernobyl, now that was what I would term an accident.
Edited 2009-03-13 13:44 (UTC)

[identity profile] shinidanie.livejournal.com 2009-03-13 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
i think it was just a wrong use of term.~ (even if it's really badly choosen =/)

[identity profile] sailorstarsun.livejournal.com 2009-03-13 04:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe she meant "incidents?"

[identity profile] succisive.livejournal.com 2009-03-13 04:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I seriously doubt Japan meant to get itself atomic bombed.

So in a sense...I guess it makes sense. I guess. Ergh.

[identity profile] fishlove.livejournal.com 2009-03-13 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
This might fit better in hetalia_discuss?

C'mon, it needs more love.

[identity profile] fishlove.livejournal.com 2009-03-15 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, personally, I wouldn't post a straight up question here unless you have something you made (art/fic/whatever) to contribute. But milage will vary on that one. In depth-discussion of the connections between history and characterisation is one of the things hetalia_discuss was made for. Most things you ask would fit right in it's borders quite well.

It's been quiet lately, too so it needs all the life it can get.