Disscussion

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

Please point out if I'm doing this wrong or if it's not allowed. :)

I'm wondering if anyone here has ever delt with the more weeboo-ish and immature Hetalia fans before in real life?
What did you do?
I'm asking because I'm pretty sure I've found someone like that and I just don't know what to do.

Guys, thank you so much for all of your advice :)

Comments

[kairatikul.livejournal.com]

Oh my :( anything specific that they are doing?

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

Not much yet they just got in the series, but before they got into Hetalia they made Nazi Germany jokes, I'm afraid of what they'll do now.

[neocurry.livejournal.com]

mmhh... are they bothering you ?

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

They (she actually) was really annoying before Hetalia, since she just got in the series, the only thing so far was that she was horribly loud and obnixious while everyone was taking their art midterm.

[lovelycudy.livejournal.com]

IRL? Nope. But I'd deal with them as I deal with people I dislike: ignore them.

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

This is what I'll probably do, thanks for the advice :)

[bosscookie.livejournal.com]

Depending on the situation, sometimes it is just best to humor them and walk away. Or that is what I try to do.

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

You're probably right :/ one day they'll realize what they were doing.

[plushielover177.livejournal.com]

The same way you'd deal with any immature second-hand embarrassment conveying fan.

Call them out on their behavior or ignore them.

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

Ah, I'd love to call out her behavior but she'd probably start crying or somwthing, so I'll most likely go with the latter choice. Thanks for the help :)

[alliterations.livejournal.com]

It's difficult and counterproductive to try and change people who act like that. The only thing you can do is make sure you are a mature, compassionate, and decent individual.

In short:

[neocurry.livejournal.com]

yaahh like this,...
just show them your badass as to not care about them

[darkinsanity-13.livejournal.com]

I'd say if it gets really bad, tell them what they're doing and that you don't like it. Some people might not even realize they're doing what they do, or they just read the atmosphere wrong. I know that sometimes I think that I'm being a total...err weeaboo (I really despise that word) because I'm about as social as a rock and anime's pretty much the only thing I can keep a decent enough conversation on for any length of time, and I usually want to talk a lot about my current obsession. Of course, I know I'm not nearly as bad as the girl I went to a con with a couple months ago, who was reading aloud her RPs as she wrote them and they were not anything anyone wanted to hear in a public place (seriously, a bunch of us were browsing around a thrift store near the con, and she was on her blackberry or something RPing what sounded like the beginnings of foreplay for yaoi). We told her to stop and she did, so I think just tell her what's appropriate and what's not. They don't grow up or get better if you don't tell them their behaviour isn't right.

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

If her behavior get's really out of hand I'll try that, thank you for the advice. :)

[runecat3.livejournal.com]

What about asking her to not act like that? ^^; If you try and be polite and not cold about it, I'm sure it'd be fine~. I was reading through some of the comments, and I just thought... If I were in her place, I'd probably feel hurt by being ignored or reprimanded. (It's worked for me...except in the case of my cousin, but she's 10 so~... >w>;)

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

I tried talking to her about some of her other actions that have bothered others (art theft etc...) but I don't know if she really listeneed. I wanted to try talking with her but I'm afraid she might feel hurt (because don't we all feel a little embarassed when someone points out our mistakes?)and she has a tendancy to overeact so I'm afraid she might involve a teacher, which would just have the whole thing spiral out of hand. :/

[mcsourface.livejournal.com]

Oh my.... *sympathy pat*
There's one group of cosplayers I've just recently cut off contact with because I'm so sick of how silly and dumb they are, and how little they seem to understand the series and everything surrounding it (or WANT to understand, for that matter).
It's really difficult, especially if you're in a place where you need to hold up an appearance of cooperation.

The way I deal with it is with lots of glaring and ignoring, anything that encourages that behavior is trouble.
But I don't know what would work for you, OP. ^^;

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

Why would they cosplay a series they knew little to nothing about? That seems silly, after all cosplays = large cost.

When she first started doing her "thing" people around me could tell I was uncomfortable, but I don't think she got the memo. I guess I'll have to see how it all unfolds, if I can't remedy it I guess I'll have to resort to the "Sweden method" glaring and glaring some more. ^.^;

[yamikisara.livejournal.com]

there only get more annoying ignorant fans the bigger a fandom becomes, sad thing about Hetalia is - unlike Naruto or most of other fandoms it's based on history so it's waaaay easier to offend others, granted most of those annoying fans are young enough to not know what exactly they're talking about

as stated above easiest thing is to ignore them

if there are more of them and it could mean problems to your group it's better to make a few rules about your meet-up and make sure everybody follows them('s actually quite easy)

basically if there are more try to explain why you're being cautious(depending on what country you are in, though) or if it's a really ignorant person just ignore him or her, they'll eventually realize and change(though I know a fair amount of hopeless cases)

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

It sounds easy, but when you have someone behind you going: "OMIGAWD Russia is like so kawaii! And Scotland is so kool!" (apparently she can't tell the differnce between an OC and official characters :/) while you're typing your art midterm and the room is dead silent (expect for her) it's hard not to headdesk.

Well it's not really a meet up thing, more of a person-at-school-I-will-see-for-the-next-three-years-of-my-life thing.

Well since we live in the US if she strolled into Social Studies and announced that Hitler was seceretly wanting in Mussolini's pants the teacher would probably give her a look and then continue with the lesson. I hope the cause isn't hopeless, I guess I'll have to wait for events to unfold before doing anything drastic.
Thank you for the advice :)

[miezen.livejournal.com]

Is this person a friend of yours? If not, just walk away and ignore it really. People like this rarely listen.

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

Well it's more like she thinks I'm her friend but I just tend to try and stay neutral and polite. I think the ignore thing might work but then I've got to get a lot more self control. I have a feeling she'll overreact if I try to talk to her so staying out of it might be a better choice.
Thank you for the advice. :)

[kinzokumanga.livejournal.com]

What are they doing that's bothering you the most?

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

They're being disruptive in class is mainly what's bothering me, since I'm in a basic level art class there are some, err less open minded people that art just talking the class for credits and my band of friends and I are sort of known for our like of cartoons, pokemon, etc.. so I'm worried the less open minded ones might turn on us for liking the same thing as them. And people I kinda know might think I'm some kind of ignorant person because of the wahy she acts.

[000-hester-000.livejournal.com]

While I've never had this experience-- my instinct is to say that if she says/does something that really bothers you or that you think just comes off as inappropriate, the best thing would be to take her aside and explain calmly why it made you uncomfortable. I think that a lot of people who are immature, as it sounds like this person is, aren't necessarily aware of how the things they say sound to others.

Otherwise, I'd also agree with the people asking for more details, because obviously how you should respond depends on the situation.

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

Talking seems like a good idea if things get out of hand.

And I've replied to some comments do I guess details are up above.

Thank you for the advice :)

[sdeegan.livejournal.com]

I feel so much fanshame and second hand embarrassment sometimes.

There's not much we can do, just deal.

WYL. <3

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

Thanks for the encouraging words. :)

[mcelligots-pool.livejournal.com]

Everyone has to deal with the crazier fans at least once in their life. Most people get really upset over it because it reminds them that they were also a weeaboo in their younger years. It's just the circle of fandom.

I haven't met any, but I hide my powerlevel pretty well outside of conventions. I've heard they can be quite embarrassing though. Like everyone else, I'd say either call them out with an intervention, or just let them be. Everyone grows out of it eventually I think.

If anything, just explain that you don't like other's knowing you're into the anime. I usually tell people I don't like to talk about it, because I'm uually with non-anime fan friends, and I like to keep everyone included in the conversation.

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

I hope she grows out of it, after all 3 years of school is a long time when tolerating the other is an arduous task.

I'm kind of the same, but I'm mainly a closet Hetalia fan because I'm worried others who don't like the series will assume I'm ignorant.

And thank you for the advice ^.^

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[lonym82.livejournal.com]

She doesn't know what she is doing is obnoxious and, regarding the Nazi jokes (if she starts doing them again), aren't cool. Yes there are times everyone is obnoxious but those times are for in a close group of friends who know you.

Since she doesn't know, she just needs someone to tell her. And not the way a parent would do it (She'll most likely rebel against the good advice) but the way a concerned friend would "Hey, I wanted to give you a heads up, those jokes aren't cool/interrupting class makes you look bad in front of everyone."
Oh it's also best if you do it when you have a moment alone with her. No one wants to get corrected in front of a crowd.

Re: s

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

Hmm I've been thinking about an intervention after reading these comments, if it gets out of hand I guess I'll have to pull her aside and have a chat with her in the hallway or something. Playing it friendly seems like a good idea, but I just hope she dosn't over react or brush it off.

[rainbowpui.livejournal.com]

haha some freshmen in the Japanese club in my school are like that :(
they just like hetalia for the cute boys and only watch the anime :/
i try to avoid them and just hope they grow out of it

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

I guess eventually they'll realize what they where doing (hopefully)
thanks for the advice :)

[kyoko215.livejournal.com]

If she becomes unignorable after awhile, do the following:

Glare at her until she starts to squirm or says something.
Say in a really low tone of voice "You disgust me."
Walk/Turn away

She won't know what hit her.

Other than that, I guess you'll just have to ignore her or deal with it.

[pookie-mookie94.livejournal.com]

That is a pretty overblown, mean thing to do -.-

[misty-rain.livejournal.com]

I haven't encountered Hetalia fans in real life, let alone the immature ones (of which I hear horror stories about).

Seeing as this person makes Nazi Germany jokes, she might not be someone who can take a hint, and has little regard for appearing civil or appropriate. She might even do it for shock value, and your reaction might just feed that.

I'd stick with ignoring it, in this case.

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

Now that you mention the attention and shock value thing it kinda makes sense, she made the Nazi Germany joke after I told her to stop making Soviet Russia jokes.

And thanks for the advice. :)

[pookie-mookie94.livejournal.com]

Hmm, here are my two cents :D

I don't know anyone from anime that is like that but, as the person somewhere above said- Deal with it. And, sorry to be a tad mean, but, get over it.
They may be annoying and loud, but I've seen many people like that, and I don't ignore them if they talk to me. And don't even think of being rude to them, 'cause they may just being nice in their own way, and it's hurtful if you growl at them. And you would come off as being a bitch.
Just be nice and polite to get across the point that they are annoying you.

And complaining about the noise in the class cause you want to do your work? Pff, have some fun or just deal with the noise. It won't kill you. (Somebody at my school complained at the noise level and we all thought she was a stick in the mud ^^;)

And with the nazi germany jokes? Deal with it. Yes, I know it's offensive and some jokes are racist, but plenty of people are like that, just ignore those jokes. (That's what I do, my friends have said some pretty mean things about Asians, and I just pretend they never said it)
And lighten up, some are pretty funny, in a "I should have not just laughed at that" way XD


... Damn, I sound mean D:
Oh well, that's what I feel...

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

It's alright I understand your stance, since she does seem like kind of a lost cause, I probably won't be able to do anything anyways. Not laughing is probably a good way to get across that the jokes wern't funy. :/
Yeah I guess I've got to get used to it, and practicing self control = more self motivation so I guess it all kind of helps me?

And thank you for the advice. :)

[rockroller17.livejournal.com]

I think most fans were like that when they first found Hetalia, I know I was lol but as time goes by you calm down more, I recently met fans who were into Hetalia and made other people fans, now i understand how crazy people can get.

Personally, I would let them have their fun, but of course if things got out of hand such as nazi jokes orz then tell them that what they are doing is inappropriate because they could insult someone by accident. So all in all, just deal with it for now because she will calm down sooner or later.

... I think there should be a Hetalia etiquette guide for new fans though... I know a lot of the crazier fans of the show give the fandom a bad name, I've actually met people who refuse to watch the show because of the fandom, and I know it's not every fan... >__<

[runecat3.livejournal.com]

Actually someone DID post an etiquette guide not too long ago on this community~. XD Some of what they mentioned I think can be attributed to initial "Why haven't I found this sooner" mentality often found among new fans, but some of what was mentioned is just ... people not liking the show for the show and treating it as a fad. (Which I hope will not happen to this show on the scale it has in other animes that I used to watch! >_<;)

[raienn.livejournal.com]

Just wanted to say that if she's disrupting class, the teacher should do something about it. You could always ask if you could move seats away from the person if the teacher/Professor doesn't reprimand her for her behavior.

Otherwise, I feel very sorry that you're going through this. It might be that she is young and immature at the moment and I hope that she will eventually realize what she's doing or grow out of it. I don't know what the best thing to do is though my personal suggestion is to call her out on it, politely (particularly the jokes, since while being a "weaboo" may be annoying, it doesn't have as much potential in hurting or offending people other that Hetalia/anime fans). But then, I was reading your comments and arguments and you seem to have a general idea of what you want to do. I wish you the best of luck in your situation and hope that she will get the message that this kind of behavior isn't looked highly upon.

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

I've already moved seats because my sister mentioned to the teacher that she was bothering me, but we went to another room to do our paper so the seats got jostled a tad. I think I told her to be quiet before it got to the point where the teacher had too intervene so it wasn't really the fault of the teacher. That seems like a good idea.

And thank you for advice and the luck ^.^

[bijou-cho.livejournal.com]

...I think she just desperately wants to find someone to talk about her fandom with., and knowing you are one could have given her the idea that she's found a fan buddy to squee to. Though if she's one of those fans and you don't like the direction her 'fan conversations' always steer into, it may be wise to just pretend you're out of the fandom and have moved on to new interests or change the subject when she tries to get into it.

Clearly, calling out on her behaviour doesn't seem to be working because it's part of who he or she is and they may not always be conscious of it. If she starts sensing your disinterest in her newfound fandom, she may move on to others or topics that's more acceptable to you.

Best of luck!

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

I'm pretty sure she's asked my friend if she was a Hetalia fan and my friend gave a terse yes before going back to her business. That whole pretend you aren't in the fandom was what I was doing before so I guess I'll probably stick with it. She seems like the type to jump fandoms a lot, but not he kind to completely forget about them so I don't know how that'll turn out.

Yeah she might, so I guess I'll have to wait for event to unfold then.

Thank you for the advice and for the luck :)

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

That's a nice idea, the whole change the topic thing, I might try that.

I at least think we're on reasonable terms, I just hope I won't have many classes with her.

Thank you for the advice and the luck :)

[rinrin0.livejournal.com]

I tend to ignore them. I guess now I feel kinda guilty, because I introduced them (perhaps indirectly, but I'm pretty sure it's my fault), and now i know one girl who apparently says "pastapastapastapasta" at her parents. But she's my sister's friend, so I just ignore her :I

[arctoslupus.livejournal.com]

Ignoring seems to be a popular option at the moment ^.^;

Hey don't beat yourself up, I probably would have thought that I introduced her because me and my friend talk about it sometimes, but I think she found it through Humon's Scandanavia and the World comics. Also it's really popular so I wouldn't put the blame on you.

And she says that to her parents? they must be so confused.