Canon?

[creation48.livejournal.com]

 Hi!

I like to discuss CANON! So, let's discuss!

Which pairings do you consider CANON pairings? 
Not only established couples but also crushes and Wannabe/soon to be-couples in the canon.

And also, which one is the best? The cutest? The hottest? The most frustrating
The one you would have loved to see in canon?
The best threesome?

Mines are:
Best: Sweden/Finland and Austria/Hungary
The cutest: HRE/Italy and/or Germany/Italy
The hottest: Romano/Spain 
The most frustrating: Austria/Switzerland
Not canon but wish it was: Uk/Japan.
Threesome of win: Germany/Italy/Prussia 

Comments

[fried-twinkie.livejournal.com]

Yeah, we get around! ;D

[fried-twinkie.livejournal.com]

I think every pairing is canon. Every country has relations with each other, so it could happen.

I don't really have favorites with pairings, but I'm especially partial to pairings with humans, like UK/Elizabeth I and France/Jeanne D'Arc.

[sakurablossom64.livejournal.com]

i like spain X s.italy

[lovelylurker.livejournal.com]

Tony/UK

[swimmuffin.livejournal.com]

YES!!! XD

[epicfail1211.livejournal.com]

As far as the actual characters in the comic go, I consider Austria x Hungary the only canon pairing as well as America x Southern Belle!Confederacy.

If Himaruya did somehow work Elizabeth I into a strip then I would ship the hell out of her and Arthur though.

[pixygal.livejournal.com]

Yeah, as far as comic canon goes, Austria and Hungary are it. The others are one-sided at best, if not completely fanon.

[metatronis.livejournal.com]

I consider US/UK to be unresolved canon. I like the pairing best because they have the rival dynamic that I love, and their history totally reads like a love story. I've also been an America/England shipper irl for nearly ten years.

[ex-defaced.livejournal.com]

Pirate UK/UK

[creation48.livejournal.com]

By CANON, I mean canon in the anime/Manga, not canon as per History

[clowderheart.livejournal.com]

I think if you looked through history, you could find evidence for pretty much any pair that's ever interacted, even if it's just a one night stand or something.

[clowderheart.livejournal.com]

*looks at above post*

Scratch that.

[ghrelin.livejournal.com]

Isn't Fr/UK canon considering France proposed marriage to England?

[jazzsea-19.livejournal.com]

no because neither of them were enjoying it and France only did it because his boss forced him

[swimmuffin.livejournal.com]

*lesigh* i don't think there are really any pairings per say...i mean, the way i see it, the nation's relationships are based off of the actual country relationship. USxUK is personally my OTP, and I honestly think that there's enough going on between these two to be called cannon. However, I still ship AmericaxRussia b/c well..gahh...I'm going to sound like a jerk, but England really isn't on the same playing field as America. I'm sorry, but it's true. There's only one nation that has ever been near the same level as America, and as much as I hate to admit it, it's Russia. RussiaXAmerica should be cannon, since they're really the only countries in the world who can match each other in strength (But they do not have a happy-lovey relationship. I mean, hello. These are two of the most manipulative, yes, America is HELLA manipulative, countries in the world. It's not going to be pretty.)

in the same sense, I also consider FrUK to be cannon. I don't really like it, but these two just have so much history together, it just makes sense. However, I don't see them in so much as an established relationship as in a "hey, let's have sex tonight" thing. They love each other, but they still see other people while in a relationship together...

the others, well, everyone's already covered them...SpainxRomano, FrancexSecheylles, AustriaxHungaryxPrussia, GermanyxItaly, WorldxWorld...:D yea. i support world peace.

[iroh-fancier.livejournal.com]

Along with Austria/Hungary, Chibitalia/HRE is also a canon couple, whether or not you buy into Germany/Italy being a canon couple (or even the theory that Germany is Holy Roman Empire). I also think that Germany/Italy is a canon couple (Germany's feelings are certainly clear enough, and I do think Italy feels the same way, but that Germany's "strange behavior" in Buon San Valentino just confused him -- after all, he is easily confused and distracted!). I think good arguments can be made for Sweden/Finland and Japan/Greece as well. Don't forget, those last two DID sleep together.

Best couple: Germany/Italy! Hell, I love them so much! Russia/Lithuania is great, too.
Cutest: Chibitalia/HRE, Germany/Italy and Japan/Greece
Hottest: Germany/Italy and Russia/Lithuania (or Russia/any one :P), England/France
Most Frustrating: America/England *ducks* They're cute, but just not my thing! ORZ Same with Poland/Lithuania -- I prefer them as best friends.
Not canon but wish it was: England/Japan, Belarus/Ukraine, Russia/Lithuania (though I think one could argue otherwise), Russia/Poland, Russia/everyone!
Threesome: Russia/Baltics (OK that's a foursome but whatever :P), Germany/Italy/Prussia, Germany/Italy/Japan, Belarus/Ukraine/Hungary (because I love yuri!)


Best:

[creation48.livejournal.com]

I'm convinced that Germany/Italy is to be considered canon. They do everything a couple do! ( except kiss) but it's canon that Germany loves Italy, even if he is not HRE! I'm not 100% Certain about Italy's true feelings but I think he like Germany a lot, and likes to be close to him! I love this couple so much <3!!!

[anubismito]

I think "real" canon couple (from the comic, not historical) are:

Hungary x Austria,
HRE x Chibitalia,

and there're some strips that make me think a lot that Russia x Lithuania are another one, even though Liet isn't on it, (because Russia claimed him as his "ex"), also Sweden x Finland (similar case to Russ x Liet, because Su claim Fin as his wife XD), but I think they're in fact canon "forced and unconscious" couples, and they live together and that.

Another one could be N.Italy and Germany (my fav.), it's a "weird" semi-canon, seems to be one-sided... We need to see the end of the San Valentino strip for confirm that XDDD.
But also sketches like this: http://megalodon.jp/contents/007/902/389.mime1 are really suggestible ^^.

Another canon couple could be 8not sure) Greece x Japan (There are some suggestible strips, like the day they're under an umbrella, and the day the're talking about sex experience XD)...

Mhh... I don't remember another one right now ^^U.

Nice post :)

[creation48.livejournal.com]

That sketch! Where did you find it? Is it official ( look like it is, but I've never seen it before! Do you have more from where it comes?)

[neko-panigiri.livejournal.com]

Russia/China is rather really canon too isn't it?

[maskedbandit416.livejournal.com]

Wahahahaha
Greece--->Japan<---Turkey

[anubismito]

I'm agree with that! X)))

[movingplaid.livejournal.com]

I think Greece/Japan is the ONLY pairing where sexual interaction is (arguably) confirmed. Unless you believe Japan's claim that it didn't happen.

[jazzsea-19.livejournal.com]

if we're talking about comic/anime canon, and not historical canon or wishful thinking canon, then the only pairings are:

HRE x Chibitalia (can't get any more canon than that, they're the only couple who have kissed)
Austria x Hungary (openly mentioned marriage, and they do have tender gestures towards each other)
Germany x Italy (pretty undeniable mutual attraction/affection)
Belarus --> Russia
Greece --> Japan (and maybe with an added Turkey in there)

As much as it pains me to say so, everything else is just cruel and horrible ship tease that makes my heart bleed with "if only"

[badlucktuckxl.livejournal.com]

USxUK is pretty canon...once the whole "Revolutionary War" thing was out of mind, we became buds.


I just wish that not every single fangirl wor-shipped it. (sorry, kinda on edge tonight >.>)

[nice-babana.livejournal.com]

I vaguely recall a note about fem!Japan having a big crush on America, so that somehow obviously means normal!Japan also does (at least in my warped brain).

< asshole>

Also, it could just be me, but for some reason, when a pairing goes canon (or semi-canon, in Hetalia's case), it seems to just stop appealing to me. I don't know why. It must be some kind of mental disorder, I swear. So, like...as much as I trytryTRY to love canon pairs like Austria/Hungary or HRE/Chibitalia, I can't help but enjoy pairing them with other characters more than with each other.

< /asshole>

[snogginnoggin.livejournal.com]

I know what you mean. I think I love pairings more when they are near impossible to find.

[thecasualnessa.livejournal.com]

Best: AustriaxHungary dammit. these two are two cute! And GermanyxItaly Cmon! Theres been tooooo many shoujo moments between these two guys! XD And they are so adorable, nnaaarrggh~<3

The cutest: HRExItaly and LietxPoland, and love these two, and I wish they could be togther forever. >//w//<

The hottest: GreecexJapan Greece is SEXY ItalyxGermany lol it probbaly wont...but who knows lol XD
The most frustrating: AustriaxPrussia .Do not like. But not as much as I dont like GermanyxPrussia bleh I also find SwitzerlandxJapan weird.

Not canon but wish it was: I hate myself for saying this but PrussiaxHungary! Im sorry Austria, but I secretly like these two! Bwaaah! AmericaxMexico ...what? lol America's map shows he/she exists lol jk
....
Im CanadaxMexico =w=

Threesome of win: GermanyxItalyxPrussia
I totally agree with you, it doesnt help that Prussia shows hints of having a boycrush on Italy in his Ore-sama blog. DAMN YOU PRUSSIA I will resist you, I go for GerIta! >///o

[creation48.livejournal.com]

Actually, I like Germany/Italy/Prussia ( but only when Germany win and Prussia give up his crush on Italy for his brother's sake, because he's awesome like that)

[miezen.livejournal.com]

There. are. only. two. canon. couples. in. Hetalia. Please get this through your heads, people.

Austria/Hungary
HRE/Chibitalia

Is your pairing on that list? No? Then it's not canon.

Austria and Hungary have been stated in bio sections to have been married. On top of that, they have clearly displayed affection for one another. Buon St. Valentino cemented it. A major "plot" point of that arc was how gift giving on Valentine's Day is different in different countries. The misunderstanding between Germany and Italy happened because Italians give gifts to everyone they like, whereas Germans only give their lover something on Valentine's Day, right? Well, it's not just Germany where only lovers give each other Valentine's gifts. I did a little research, and it's the same in Austria. Austria went out of his way to make Hungary a Valentine's gift, blowing up Germany's kitchen in the process. He wouldn't have done that if he didn't love her. And Hungary's reaction was a sign that she feels the same. Finally, they were on a date at the end of the arc. If they're not canon, then nothing else is either besides HRE/Chibitalia.

Speaking of which, HRE/Chibitalia should be pretty obviously canon. They confessed their love to each other before HRE left. You can't refute a pair that has a love confession.

HOWEVER, Germany/Italy? Not canon. Why not? It's too vague. Germany may or may not be HRE, and even if he is, Italy doesn't recognize him. The end of Buon St. Valentino made it pretty obvious that Germany likes Italy, but it's still not completely clear. And even if it were, we don't know Italy's feelings.

Sweden/Finland? No, sorry. Sweden is into Finland, yeah, we know, but Finland has NEVER said he feels the same about Sweden.

US/UK? Please. Absolutely not. There has never been anything remotely romantic between the two in canon. Ever. Sorry, but there hasn't been. Show me what you think is "romantic" between them and I'll show you how it can just as easily be interpreted as them being bros. If there's any question, it's not canon.

Also Spain/Austria. Not canon. Yeah, there's that strip where Austria tells Spain he "won't recognize bigamy", indicating that they were married, but uh...that's it. Unlike Austria/Hungary, they don't behave like a couple at all ever. Austria's bio does say he's willing to tie the knot in order to not have to do work himself. Spain was pretty clearly a case of this, considering they mostly interact as friends.

Anyone else got a pair they think is canon for me to refute? =D

[echelon-002.livejournal.com]

While I agree that Austria x Hungary and HRE x Chibitalia are definitely the only canon pairings, I don't agree that some of the ones you listed are completely 100% platonic. I actually think some do involve more than friendly feelings--it's hard to think otherwise in the wake of the Valentine's Day strip--but this whole thing is very subjective, and unless Himaruya gives us solid proof, none of us will ever agree on what constitutes as "romantic" or not. Hell, even the canon couples aren't considered "official" by everyone.

[hagane-no-mame.livejournal.com]

If we still use the word "canon" properly then there are no canon couples with the exception of HRE x Chibitalia and maybe Austria x Hungary.

Not trying to start ship wars or anything but a pairing is not canon when there is nothing to show for it. Just because Italy is clingy to Germany doesn't mean he loves him that way(though we can certainly imagine), just because England has a bad case of tsundere and brother complex does not mean he thinks of America romantically. Even Greece x Japan is hard to agree on.

It's very misleading to newcomers to Hetalia when fandom mixes their canon up.

[iamelegentmess.livejournal.com]

This.

Canon is not a flexible term.

[powderthefox.livejournal.com]

We're strictly speaking romantically, right?

If so I only consider Austria/Hungary and HRE/Chibitalia to be real canon. I assume those need no explanation.

Sweden/Finland, there's no relationship here; it's a one-sided crush at best. Even if Sweden does like Finland in that way, Finland has shown no sign of returning those feelings.

Germany/Italy, at most a one-sided crush. Though the Valentine's strip confused me--I'm still not sure if Germany did all that because he actually likes Italy or because he felt like it was his duty after Italy (supposedly) confessed his love. Even if he did like Italy, Italy sure as hell wasn't very responsive to him LOL. So yeah, that'd make it more of a one-sided crush for now than anything.
Though considering the HRE/Chibitalia thing, a canon relationship is still a possibility, I think. As of yet though, I wouldn't say so.

Spain/Romano, I say no (even if they are my favorite twosome). Spain's more of the doting parent type towards Romano. Romano certainly seems like he has a type of affinity/protectiveness/possessiveness towards Spain--though whether that translates into "crush" is entirely subjective, I think.

Swiss/Liech, also very subjective, I think.

US/UK, and I'm really sorry to all the shippers, but IMO? Not at all. I read through all of Hetalia before coming to the fandom, and the fact that the pairing never even crossed my mind until I came here should say something.

Greece/Japan, canonically they're good friends at most. The fact that Greece and Turkey fight over him is, I think, more proof of their dislike of each other than of their like for Japan.

And to cut it short, the rest out there? All get a "no" from me.

Re: Canon is not a flexible term.

[miezen.livejournal.com]

Sad thing is, I have seen people try to refute Austria/Hungary. I see it a lot. I think it's mostly fangirls that are butthurt that the only canon pairing in their "oh so gay and filled with rainbows and buttsex" fandom that doesn't involve children is a pairing consisting of a man and a woman. Sigh. Once upon a time I'd have thought you were better than that, Hetalia fandom.

[inner-wings.livejournal.com]

Everyone's already said it, but if you're going strictly by the strips, Austria/Hungary and HRE/Italy are the only real canon.

On the other hand, with historical canon, just about anything can work. Which is why I prefer it. ;)

COURT ADJOURNED ALSO +1

[raindiae.livejournal.com]

Ah, but I agree with you here :) You basically got the jist of all my thoughts
Oh how my fangirl heart yearns for some pairings to be canon.. but who can really decide if a pairing is canon or not round here. What is canon anymore anyway - Tsktsk, Himaruya, making shipping all too easy for us.. But this is the fun of the fandom right? Although the story tries to revolve around historically accurate occurences I feel we should all just let loose and have fun with it. Simple, no?
Or are all of us above that? |D