Q&A: A lot of questions is A LOT....

[flamefox324.livejournal.com]

My first one shall be about the American Revolution. I'm writing a fanfic about it (I'm not really going into DEEP details about it but I still need some clarifications). I know the Declaration of Independence was signed in July 4th, 1776. But then I noticed that the last battle, Battle of Yorktown was around 1780 (I think there were few small battles after this one but I think this was the last major one). Then in 1781, Great Britain signed the Treaty of Paris.

I just thought if the 1776 Declaration was signed, then whichever 1776 battle should be the last one, not the 1780. ^^; Or were the British trying to be persistent on trying to win over the U.S.?


Second question: Is there a reference to TRNC (Cyprus) sketches that Himaruya made from his site or even made him an image of him not wearing the hat? First time I saw him was those trading cards.

Third: Also, maybe some of you guys remember the screenshots of the African nations (http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/2753593.html), where the gender of Ghana and Botswana identified? I could tell majority are girls (except Uganda)? You can't really tell by those chibi heads much. Plus, who's that girl with the hat? ^^? (I don't think I'll get much answers from this question since the Gakuen Hetalia game is still under construction, right?)

Fourth: I know I saw some few Mongolia images (more like chibi references), but I was wondering if there are more?

You can shoot me for asking too much. D:

Comments

[kakkobean.livejournal.com]

The Declaration of Independence was the United States basically giving England the fuck-you finger-off. That's when the battles reeeaally got earnest, though there were still a large amount of tories on American soil. America didn't win the war of Independence until the Treaty of Paris was signed which ended the war and gave major concessions to the United States (and France might have gotten stuff, too, not sure)

[kakkobean.livejournal.com]

Also, what girl with the hat? Do you have any pictures? I didn't know that Himaruya had made a Uganda!

The African nations in this picture are (I thought) Botswana, Kenya, Zimbabwe, Ghana, and Ethiopia.

[flamefox324.livejournal.com]

(http://community.livejournal.com/hetalia/2753593.html)

The one next to Zimbwawe and Kenya in full body view profile.

[seraphoftales.livejournal.com]

It's with the link flamefox given... He made them a long time ago

[vysnia-cerasus.livejournal.com]

Ahh, the African nation-tans. Uganda is the bald one right there. To my knowledge, Himaruya never has quite clarified the genders of Ghana, Botswana, and Uganda. Kenya's female, and most assume the girl next to her in the full concept art is Zimbabwe, though I've seen some Japanese fans consider Zimbabwe and that girl to be separate too (when they remember them, that is).

I don't think Ethiopia's design has ever been released, but if I remember correctly they were said to be a "he" in the game. So that kind of rules out one of the two mysterious girls in the concept art, unless Himaruya changed his mind. I wonder if the teacher is meant to be a nation too or is just some rare "Muggle" at the school? He never did say anything about the teacher, but it'd be interesting. Himaruya did intend for there to be a Libya in the game too, he mentioned it in his old '07 diary. But you can't really find them in the demo or in the script, so I wonder if one of the two unknown girls might be them?

Gakuen Hetalia's demo was released in February 2007, so sadly, I can't see it being finished any time soon. Himaruya's art style has changed so much since then, he'd probably have to rework the entire thing.

[flamefox324.livejournal.com]

Aaaah! I see. It's more like "We don't want to be part of you and we shall become our own nation and having our own ways and rights." Then Britain got angry with it and soon ignore it. Then the 13 colonies declare war.

[dani-in-japan.livejournal.com]

The signing of the Declaration of Independence in 1776 was America's formal slap in the face to England. It was more a formal declaration of the beginning, and definitely not the end. The war officially ended with the signing of the Treaty of Paris in 1783.

[lily-winterwood.livejournal.com]

That's pretty much it. The British had been taxing the colonists, which led to dissent and thus the drafting of the Declaration. 1776 is the day America formally declared war on England, not when they gained independence in earnest.

soooo
1776 (declare independence) ====> 1780 (get independence)

*is product of American school system*

[seraphoftales.livejournal.com]

Ad far as I know, Cyprus only emerged in the trading cards. Zimababwe and Kenya are the only ones confirmed to be women. Uganda is the only one confirmed to be a guy. Nobody knows who the girl with the hat is.

I don't really know if Mr. Himaruya has decided on any solid characters for Mongolia. I could same for the African countries. Because they are all liable to change.

[kisekichibi.livejournal.com]

TRNC =/= Cyprus

Cyprus is more of an adult.

[vysnia-cerasus.livejournal.com]

Well, she could be one of the African nations that didn't have a chibi-head in the demo too! Let's see:

-Ethiopia (said to be a boy, IIRC)
-Guinea-Bissau
-Sahara
-Congo (the Belgian Congo/Democratic Republic of Congo specifically, it confused me for a bit until I remembered the "Belgian colony" part of their intro)
-Cabinda

She could be any of those last four, if Himaruya decided to keep Ethiopia as a guy. Or "Libya", who he mentioned in his '07 diary. There's also the mysterious girl with the glasses.

Mongolia's had two chibi appearances so far, pretty obscure ones too. He didn't seem to change too much between them, other than Himaruya adding a pair of glasses to him in the "Asia" group sketch.

[seraphoftales.livejournal.com]

Could be, being the key words... The girl with glasses could be Botswana.

Ah! I cross my finges and hope that Hima-san makes more african cameos

[spurnedambition.livejournal.com]

For the first question: The Declaration of Independence, as the title says, was America declaring its (his?) independence. It meant that the American revolutionaries were fighting for their new nation, as opposed to revolting against the empire, as well as the reasons why they wanted to become sovreign. However, it didn't mean that Britain officially acknowledged it as a nation at that point, hence why the war continued until the Treaty of Paris.

[sono-blac.livejournal.com]

The Battle of Yorktown (1781) was the last major battles, but they only negotiated the peace in 1783, with the Treaty of Paris. In my mind, I think it wasn't because the British were persistent in keeping it (they noticed it was creating a huge war debt and it'd be better if they left the Americans alone), but because France and Spain were being a-holes. The Treaty of Alliance (1778) signed with France guarenteed French support during the war, but it also caused the Revolution to turn into a world war. Now the British had to fend off France, and later Spain, who wanted a piece of the action. France and Spain didn't want to negotiate until Spain captured Gibraltar from Great Britain (no clue why they'd do that), but everyone honestly knows it wouldn't happen. :r Side note, the American negotiators got a pretty good deal out of the Treaty of Paris (like, half the continent?) and the British were more willing to end the fight.

And like everyone said, the Revolution began with Lexington, Concord, and Bunker Hill, and then there was the Declaration and then... yeah. I'll tack on the War of 1812 as the Second Revolutionary War, in case you wanted to do that too.

Others, uh, I don't know too much about.

[sono-blac.livejournal.com]

*battle

*keeping up the war effort, I mean.

[lovelylurker.livejournal.com]

Yeah... not to burn Hetalia's view on early America/England's relationship, but England pretty much quit bugging America because the United States' founding fathers were really, really good at politics. They pretty much went out and found all the people who didn't like England and were like "Hey, want to bug England?"

(Sounds kind of like the Austria-Hungary wars of succession, hmm? (I think that's what they were called. xD))

I mean, England attacked the US again in 1812 and burned down the capital. xD American kind of quit antagonizing England after that and started bugging Mexico/Spain instead.

[wickedlady101.livejournal.com]

um technically wasn't it Canada who burnt down the capital in 1812...Even if we were under English rule..don't forget about us....

[sono-blac.livejournal.com]

Yeah. xD Alliances really helped, though I've got no clue how Spain honestly did anything besides making England wary of an invasion. (And a lot of people didn't like Great Britain then.)

1812 was America's fault. Or well, England provoked them to fight. I really think that's a Second War of Independence, kinda reasserting their worth in the world. >3

[fivedayslater.livejournal.com]

Everyone else basically said it already. 1776 we declared independence, Britain didn't like that. The war was fought so they'd recognize us as a nation.

[romanitas.livejournal.com]

Like a few people have already said, 1776 was just the former colonies' declaration, which brought on the war till official end in 1783. The American colonies were a huge asset to the British, so they were a little hard pressed to lose them.

It's pretty hilarious that the USA ended up having to just reinstate similar taxes to the ones they protested to pay for the war, not to mention borrow money from England itself. The debt was huge.

[x-haphazard-x.livejournal.com]

Yeah, after painfully learning that optional taxes are not a good idea. xD

[kisekichibi.livejournal.com]

I would think that TRNC first made his appearance in either the trading card or original drama CD. If there are any sketches posted online, they're probably deleted.

By the way, I stated this already in another comment, but TRNC =/= Cyprus. TRNC is a little deadpan kid while Cyprus is an adult something something I feel dead.

[flamefox324.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I've been wondering about that. Wasn't Cyprus just divided into the regular one and the Turkish Northern side of it? (I assume that Cyprus will be two different nations: the TRNC under Turkish rule and the other Republic of Cyprus.)

[vysnia-cerasus.livejournal.com]

Yep! But the Turkish Republic is only recognized by Turkey as an actual separate nation. There was an attempt to reunify both halves of Cyprus, but it didn't go over very well. The TRNC issue is still quite the ongoing problem.

It makes sense for there to be two different characters and for TRNC to be younger: Cyprus has a pretty long history and the Turkish Cypriot state is only a small and more "recent" part of it. Plus there are pretty big differences between Greek Cyprus and Turkish Cyprus. I hope Himaruya will release a design for Cyprus soon, I'd like to see his visual take on him. We've seen TRNC, now it's time to see his "brother".