http://shibbyone.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] shibbyone.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] hetalia2011-06-29 05:55 pm

[Discussion] Fandom names for Nyotalia characters

Hello comm! So I'm working on fics featuring some Nyotalia'd nations, and I'm wondering if there are any familiar fandom-wide names for them. I know "Amelia" is popular for America and "Ivanna" for Russia, but what about England, France, Japan, Germany, Italy, China, etc etc etc?

The fics I'm planning will all specifically have fem!England, fem!France and fem!Japan, but I'm just super curious about what fandom thinks. Headcanons are even fine, I'm terrible with coming up names. Feel free to come up with names for other characters like, Canada, Spain, Cuba, Australia? Prussia, Austria?

Go crazy! I'm curious :D

[identity profile] n.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Alice is the generally accepted name for Igiko
It's either Emily or Amelia for America
Japan is Sakura, but personally, I like calling her Kiku as it is an androgynous name.
Anya is a popular name I've seen used for Russia.
Monika or Louise is used for Germany
and I think it's either Felicia or Daisy for North Italy.
Maddie/Madeline or some variant is used for Canada
Prussia I believe is Julchen? But I honestly think Maria suits her better.

I'm just going off from what I've seen the fandom use.

The only two I've ever used myself, for fem!france and fem!germany are Francine and Luitgarde respectively.
Though those won't ever catch on within fandom LOL.
Edited 2011-06-29 22:11 (UTC)

[identity profile] mg-emji.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
lol Ivanna. It really looks not like slavic or Russian. X)
I think Japanese fandom basically use "Himaruya's" Nyotalia names. I like them too.

[identity profile] mg-emji.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
He did a list of names, but they are not official. Their use on Pixiv now.

[identity profile] franceismyhomie.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Well I know in France they have their own real anthropomorphic representation of the country named Marianne so I typically use that. England, well going on stereotypes, generally here we all assume most British chicks are either named Elizabeth or Victoria so I use either or [usually Elizabeth though]. Apparently Kiku is a unisex so sometimes I use that, but I've seen Sakura used for fem!Japan so I prefer using that.

I use Madeline for Canada because it's French but it's getting more popular in English and you can make the short form Maddie which sounds like Mattie, the nickname some people use for Matthew.

For Prussia, I use my own little headcanon. I only genderbend Prussia in my AUs, so I write in how she was named after her great-grandfather, Gilbert, who was a Prussian General and I name her Gilberta - preferring to be referred as Gilbert by her friends because she's a tomboy.

Likewise, for Austria I picture her being kind of snobbish with the whole rich bitch demeanor to her and 'rich bitch' makes me think of Veronica from the Archie comics so I named fem!Austria Veronika. That way her nickname, Ronnie, kind of sounds like 'Roddy'; what some people use as a teasing nickname for Roderich.

For countries like Cuba and Australia, who don't have canon names, I usually just find the baby name statistics in each respective country and choose the most popular name that suits the character. I don't either character very often and I've never genderbent them before, so I don't have any suggestions :/ sorry~! D:

I always change my mind with Spain but typically I use Isabel or Marisol or something like that.

Hope that helped! :D

[identity profile] kiniski.livejournal.com 2011-06-30 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
/drive by stealing of fem!Austria's name o u o

[identity profile] cure-lover-17.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Here goes goes the ones I have heard for:

-America: Emily
-Russia: Anya
-England: Alice, Agatha, Elisabeth and Rose
-France: Francine, Françoise and Marianne
-Japan: Sakura
-Canada: Maddeline, Mathilda, Marguerite and Catherine/Caitlin(that one is from me actually)
-Spain: Isabel(la), Carmen and Anita
-Prussia: Gillian, Maria and Julchen
-China: Chun-Yan
-Austria: Rodericka...

that's about it
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[identity profile] kyoko215.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Going with what was said above, from what I've heard/read in fanfiction:

Amelia is the popular choice for America
Alice is England
France is Francine
Madeline/Maddie is Canada
Sakura is Japan

That's all I've heard in reguards to Nyotalia fandom.
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[identity profile] kyoko215.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and I've heard Anya for Russia moreso than Ivanna.
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[identity profile] n.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I know you meant no offense, but there was absolutely no need for the lesbian comment there.

[identity profile] marquis25.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry. That's just the best word I could come up with to describe them. I guess I should have thought that one over more. ^^'

[identity profile] n.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I would recommend doing that next time.
No one's sexual orientation can be defined by someone's name alone.

And it's not a smart word to use when describing something in generalization, for anything.

[identity profile] marquis25.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll try to word things better in the future. Thanks for not freaking out at me.

[identity profile] rosetteroulette.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Himaruya posted up some names on his blog once, though they're not totally official, and he didn't name all the girls. (I think he said he got them from a fan?)

They were as follows:

N. Italy = Alice (pronounced Ah-lee-che)
S. Italy = Chiara (pronounced kee-ah-rah)
Germany = Monica (or Monika)
Japan = Sakura
Russia = Anya
England = Rosa
China = Chun-Yan

Those are what I remember at the top of my head, anyways. ;3;

I actually like the names and they're the ones I usually use, but they're not totally official either.

[identity profile] yvesste.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
France = Marianne (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianne) for me, always!

Looking at other comments, I guess I like "Isabel/la" for Spain (tough choice), and "Emily" for America, "Sakura" for Japan... I don't know how I feel about "Alice" for England or Italy, but they sound nice enough.

Maybe Rodelinde, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodelinda_(opera)) for Austria? It starts the same as "Roderich."

[identity profile] tamabonotchi.livejournal.com 2011-06-29 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
For my headcanon, I think Fem!Germany is Luise/Louise. It goes with the pattern on how Ludwig could be from the famous Germans like Ludwig Van Beethoven, where there was a Duchess Luise, queen consort of Prussia.

I've also seen someone use Susan as Fem!Sweden's name, and I found it incredibly funny so I like it.

[identity profile] nuitfroide.livejournal.com 2011-06-30 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
The most common ones I've seen:
America = Amelia
Canada = Madeline (or Maddie)
England = Alice (sometimes Elisabeth)
France = Marianne or Francoise
Italy = Bella (Bella means beautiful in Italian)

[identity profile] offensiv.livejournal.com 2011-06-30 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
My personal favorites for names are:

America - Avery (To which she'd exclaim, "it's kinda cool, don't ya think? Kinda like--- Aviation! And who isn't a fan of planes?")
Russia - Anya (I knew a Russian woman who was very sweet by this name-- I think Russia would be very motherly, and so I associate these two)
England - Elizabeth (Something mature and eloquent-- but can have ridiculous nicknames! i.e- Lizzie, Ellie, Beth)
France - Francoise (It's the female version of Francis, and it rhymes well with her last name! Francoise Bonnefoy!)
Romano - Luciana (I kind of don't like Lovina, and you still get the silly nickname-- Luuuciii~!)
Spain - Anita (I don't know why-- but I was browsing Spanish names and this one just kind of stuck for me)
Canada - Madeline (Still have the nick name 'Maddy' and you know France would)
Prussia - Maria (Mainly based on my headcanon that Spain yells, "POR QUE MARIA?!?!" at her)

[identity profile] whittertwitter.livejournal.com 2011-06-30 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much everyone has posted the common fandom names for the Nyotalia nations, so I'll just post what I call them. (These are just the ones that have official Nyotalia versions.)

North Italy: Lucia, after St. Lucia.
Germany: I kind of bounce back and forth between Dorothea, Gertrude, or Helga, the latter two because those were names my parents jokingly said they considered naming me. /coolstorybro
Japan: Sakurako, Sakura for short.
America: Amelia, after Amelia Earhart.
England: Alice, after Alice in Wonderland. I figure if her male version is named after a famous literary character, she should be, too.
France: I bounce back and forth between Marianne, after the name for the personification of France, and Genevieve, after St. Genevieve.
Russia: Anna, Anya for short.
China: Yì.
Canada: Madeline, Maddie for short.
South Italy: Chiara, after St. Chiara.
Spain: Teresa.
Sweden: Linnéa, because there was a Swedish exchange student by that name in most of my classes the past two years.
Hungary: Gyula.
Liechtenstein: Ferdinand.
Taiwan: Míng.
Hong Kong: Méi Yīng. (This is the Mandarin romanization; I have no idea what the Cantonese romanization is.)
South Korea: Chun Hyang.
Belgium: Théo
Belarus: Mikola, Kolya for short.
Ukraine: Yuriy, Zhora for short.
Vietnam: Quang
Seychelles: Jacques.
Austria: I don't really know...A lot of fans like Anneliese; I'm kind of drawn toward Eleanora/Leonore.
Prussia: Louise/Luise, Lulu for short.
Monaco: Vincent/Vicente.

[identity profile] whittertwitter.livejournal.com 2011-06-30 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! :)

[identity profile] thealmightykit.livejournal.com 2011-06-30 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
I personally like Lukas for male!Liechtenstein and Verena for fem!Switzerland.

[identity profile] namikazi-itachi.livejournal.com 2011-06-30 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
Well, hopping onto the bandwagon here. And since I genderbend all the time, this is pretty easy for me.

So, these are mostly just what I use. Also just names I like, in general.

Amelia or Allison for Ameriko. I prefer Amelia, mostly because of Amelia Earhart.
Canada ends up as "Madeline" for me. Every time. I've seen "Matilda" used, but I generally prefer "Madeline", because it's French and it reminds me of the children's book series.
Elizabeth or Victoria is acceptable for Igiko - as well as Mary or Jane. Pick a British Queen, and you're done, I guess. I generally use Morgan, though. (As in Morgan le Fay. Yes, I'm a King Arthur Nerd.)
Japan can be Sakura, Kiku, or Yuki.
I tend to use "Marion" for France, but I also like "Christine" or "Marianne".
"Anita" for Spain, and "Maria" for Prussia.
(I also sometimes just use "Prussia" for Prussia because A: I'm lazy, and B: I think it would actually be a really cool girl's name.)
I'm not a huge fan of Fem!Germany. But I guess "Liesel" works okay? I know I don't like Louise.
I like "Eli(as)" for Mangary, and "Regina" for Fem!Austria.
As for the Italies, N. Italy ends up "Venezia (ve-nii-TZI-ah)" or "Feliciana" (I prefer Venezia, with a pet name of "Veni"); S. Italy ends up as "Maria" (Because then Spain can sing West Side Story to her) or "Lovina". I'm sure there are better names out there, those are just the ones I like.
Russia is Anastasia, with a pet name of Anya. Ivanka also works, but doesn't sounds as good imo.

As for everybody else, just look up popular baby names in that country.

Hope this helps!

[identity profile] tricolores.livejournal.com 2011-06-30 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mean to nitpick but in the Russian language "Anya" is actually a nickname for "Anna" and not "Anastasia." Nastya, Nastasya, Nastaska, and Nastenka are far more likely nicknames for a female Russia if her name were to be Anastasia. Russian nicknames are super confusing sometimes!

[identity profile] namikazi-itachi.livejournal.com 2011-06-30 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
No, nitpick away! I actually didn't know that. I'll keep that in mind next time I genderbend Russia.
All Russian is super confusing sometimes. At least to me.

[identity profile] tricolores.livejournal.com 2011-06-30 06:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay! I'm not always sure how people will react to corrections like that, so I always try to be as polite as possible. Thanks for understanding! They're cute though!

[identity profile] blue-bansheed.livejournal.com 2011-06-30 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
This are my Headcanons names for the Nyos:

Feliciano = Giulietta (For Juliet of Romeo and Juliet, as Portia or Desdemona did't fit her)

Lovino = Chiara (for Chiara d'Assisi) or Sibilla (for Sibilla di Medania, Medieval queen of Sicily)

Ludwig = Adelheid (for Adelheid von Burgund, second wife of the Holy Roman Emperor, Otto the Great. She is also know as Saint Adelaide of Italy -Nooo, I don't see anything here screaming Gerita 8D-)

Kiku = Nadeshiko (As she is a Yamano Nadeshiko type)

Gilbert = Wilhelmine (for Old Fritz's dearest sister)

Roderich = Sophie (Wisdom, not a real big reason, I wanted an elegant, classic name for her)

Elizabeta = Stefan (for Saint Stephen I, first King of Hungary)

Ivan = Anya or Anastasiya (for the first wife of Ivan the Terrible)

Arthur = Agatha (For Agatha Christie)

Yao = Leizu (for a legendary Chinese empress. According to tradition, Leizu discovered silk when a cocoon fell in her tea.)

Alfred = Joanne or Connie (the Last and the first player of the year in the All-American Girls Professional Baseball League)

Francis = Aliénor (for Aliénor d'Aquitaine, a queen from medieval France and leter of England)

Antoñio = Maria (for the Virgin Mary) and Antoñia (that it's Antoñio's femenine form) Or Isabel (for Isabel I Queen of Castile and León) Maria Antoñia or Maria Isabel in the end.

Matthiew = Madeleine (not a real reason, I just like to call her Maddie)

Hope this could help you for something.

[identity profile] meer-sshi.livejournal.com 2011-06-30 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Personally I like Kiko or Keiko for fem!Japan; Sakura is okay too. I actually like Alexis for fem!America because I see it as a spunky name and fem!America seems like the spunky type to me, but Amelia or Emily is more commonly used so that's good too. Alice for fem!England is perfect, because I like the idea of the Nyotalia counterparts' names somewhat matching with their normal names and because of the novel ALice in wonderland... I like Viktoria for fem!Prussia, because it was the name of the youngest daughter of one of the last kings of Prussia back in the day. Feliciana for fem!North Italy is cute. And Marianne for fem!France seems fitting.

[identity profile] aurialle.livejournal.com 2011-06-30 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Ameriko- I usually use Emily (which seems to be more common in the Japanese fandom than the English) because... to be totally honest, I just use it because it's also my name. Also, it fits with Alfred's name because it was the most common girls name in the US for quite a while (1997 until 2007, and it still hasn't dropped below #6).

Canadako- For some reason I use Clair. Maybe because it means "light" and snow can be so "shiny" (for lack of a better word) it hurts your eyes.

Itako & Romana- I usually use Bianca for Itako and Katerina for Romana because during my English class's reading of "Taming of the Shrew" I always pictured the Minola sisters as these two. And I can't be the only one who is reminded of Italy by Bianca from Pokemon Black & White, can I?

Fem!Greece- I usually use Aphrodite, but any other female name from Greek mythology would be equally fitting (or more or less, depending on what the myth is and how fem!Greece is portrayed).

...Apparently I don't think enough about Nyotalia to have human names for a lot of them. I should fix that.

[identity profile] elr7769.livejournal.com 2011-07-01 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
Fem!America- I usually call her Amelia, too.

Fem!Italy- I call her Felicia.

Fem!Germany- I call her Louise.

Fem!Spain- I call her Isabel.

Fem!Romano- I call her Lovina (or you can call her Chiara or Catherine. Lovina is more commonly used, though).

Fem!Japan- I think her name is Sakura.

Fem!England- I think she's Alice.

Fem!France- I call her Francine.

Fem!Canada- I call her Maddie or Madeline. It works since it's close to Canada's human name (Matt or Mattie... I forget which one).


I can't remember any other Nyotalia names right now :(

[identity profile] freakanature88.livejournal.com 2011-07-01 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I think naming the characters after prominent leaders makes things rather confusing. So, uh, a couple names that I differ on (because I agree with most of these) :

Spain - Carmen (Y'know... like the opera that everyone loves...)
Romano - Margherita (B-because it means "daisy" in Italian and that's... ridiculously cute...)

...I guess those are the only ones I really differ on. XD

*slinks away now*

[identity profile] sara-rojo.livejournal.com 2011-07-01 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
America - I've seen Amelia and Abigail (*shudders*), but I personally prefer Allison or Alice.

England - Most common are Alice (which I dislike for her) and Elizabeth (which I use sometimes). My preferred is Anne, though, after the famous pirate lady.

France - Marianne

Canada - Madeleine, Maddie.

Germany - Luise seems to be the most common, but I personally like Julchen, the usual Prussia choice.

Prussia - Most common are Maria (which I hate) and Julchen, but I like something as grandiose and epic as Krimhild XD

Italy - I hate Daisy with all the passion I'm able to muster. Felicia is ok. Personally I think Chiara suits her perfectly, much more than her sister.

South Italy - I like Lovina or Romana

Spain - I've seen Isabel, which I can get behind, and also ocassionally Carmen or Teresa. I hate the rising-in-popularity Anita, it sounds horrendously "granma"-ish to Spanish like me. Personally, my choice would be Rocío or Almudena.

Russia - I like Anya, but I equally like the more incorrect Ivanna.

[identity profile] webcomix.livejournal.com 2011-07-01 11:19 am (UTC)(link)
Helloo, I'm here to add my own two cents on fem!names:

America: Allison/Ally is what I normally go for. But yes, I've also encountered Amelia and Emily.

Russia: Ivana and Anya are both names I see frequently.

England: Elizabeth, Alice, or Anna is what I normally come across, but I've read somewhere that people like using Rose.

France: Francine or any such variation seems most common to me. However I like the idea of using Marianne, the allegorical representation of France, as her name.

Japan: Kiku is fine for both boys and girls, so I would keep it. I have heard of people using Sakura, the unofficial national flower, as a fem!name though.

Germany: I often see Luise used as her fem!name.

Italy: I use Feliciana, and have also seen Felicia and Venicia used. Though strangely, I hear that Daisy is also quite popular.

Romano: I use Lovina, though I've seen Romana and Chiara used.

China: The most common one I see is Yue. It means moon.

Canada: I use Madeleine, with the nickname of Maddie. Others I've seen include Mattea, Mattie, or Marguerite.

Spain: Antonia seems most common. Once I saw a Carmen used.

Prussia: I personally use Gillian, after seeing another author using it and liking it. Maria seems to be a popular choice, and Julchen as well.

I haven't seen fem!Cuba Australia, or Austria used in fanworks yet.

Hope this gives you good ideas!

[identity profile] jessica liu (from livejournal.com) 2015-06-26 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a really popular fanfic with genderbent characters that have good names. I'm so used to the names now, it feels weird for the characters to have different ones. I prefer...

America- Amelia

England- Alice (I agree with a comment before that England should have a name from literature. It's what they're famous for)

France- Françoise

N. Italy- Feliciana, sometimes Felicia. I think her middle name would be Daisy/Marghertia (national flower, one of them at least)

S. Italy- Lovina, because nickname stays Lovi and I like that nickname

Germany- Monika

Japan- Sakura, however other comments convinced me Kiku is a good gender-neutral option

Russia- Anya Bragniskaya

Canada- I think we all agree that Madeline (Maddy) suits the best for various reasons

Prussia- Julchen, Gillian, Jullian, Jillian, any other variation really

Spain- Antonia, Anita (I don't like the name María because it's what I imagine Mexico's name to be)

China- As long as the name has two characters and is in Mandarin, I don't care