hetalia | [DISCUSSION] Seven Deadly Sins/Seven Heavenly Virtues with the Nations?

I've got not recs for characters beyond the glaringly obvious, but I was wondering why those virtues are listed. The 7 Heavenly Virtues I was taught are faith, hope, charity, fortitude, justice, temperance, and prudence. These don't exactly match up as opposites of the 7 Deadly Sins, but they're the ones this ex-Catholic schoolgirl learned. Just wondering.

_{Well, for me I guess this is how I imagine it:

Pride/Humility = S.Italy/N.Italy
Lust/Chastity = France/Ukraine
Greed/Charity = England/Lithuania
Gluttony/Temperance = U.S.A./Canada
Envy/Trust = Russia/Spain
Sloth/Diligence = Prussia/Germany

Not quite sure who to put down for Wrath/Patience, though...}

Wrath/Patience is right. (For one loses their temper due to a lack of patience.)

Envy/Trust is... right though most of the time it's considered to be "kindness" not trust, exactly. XD (Either way envy is the absence of both trust and kindness. One must be unbiased in their conveyance of love and kindness and be empathic and trust without preconceived judgment.)

Sorry I can't help with assignments, but I've use the 7DS and 7HV for stories myself (helps that I'm Catholic XD) so I thought I'd help with your questions. :3

I feel like Trust is not one of them :/ But I can't remember the virtues, sorry.

But anyways...

For the Deadly Sins I would suggest:
Envy - Romano
Sloth - Spain (he got invaded once because the enemy attacked him during his siesta xD)
Pride - The awesome prussia
Lust - France?
Greed/Gluttony - America, maybe more so for gluttony because ya'know.. fattest country in the world...
Wrath - It's a tie between Germany and Russia history-wise for me...

Those are the 7 Capital Virtues that correspond to the 7 Gifts of the Holy Spirit, not the 7 Heavenly Virtues. :3 A lot of people mix them up. X3

There are too many 7 somethings in Catholicism! XDDD

Edited 2010-06-19 03:22 (UTC)

Ah okay, thanks. It was kindness, I just put the wrong thing down. Fixed. |D

For the virtues, I learned Purity and Kindness instead of Chastity and Trust. At least, that's what my theater teacher taught me.

But yeah, so far I can only think of the really obvious ones too. Like France and Lust, Prussia and Pride, Greece and Sloth, America for Gluttony. The sins are always easier. o3o

Pride- America
Humility- Canada
Lust- France
Chastity- England (secretly fails at it)/ Japan
Greed- Spain/ Switzerland/ and former empire
Charity- Switzerland (red cross)/ Lichtenstein
Gluttony- Prussia/Russia
Temperance- Germany/Ukriane
Wrath- Hungary/Prussia/Japan/Russia/Denmark
Patience- Austria/Germany/China/Ukraine/Norway
Envy- Romano
Trust- Veneziano
Sloth- Poland
Diligence- Lithuania

Sloth is kind of hard because some people say it should be Acedia instead which translates to sadness or depression.

Also there are some really good pictures on DeviantArt with Hetalia pairings set to the seven sins. Maybe they would help?

Yes, they are easier. ~~I guess humanity's just like that, looking for flaws I mean.~~

For the virtues, I learned Purity and Kindness instead of Chastity and Trust.

Pretty much the same thing, really. XDDD

Pride/Humility - Prussia/Spain
Lust/Chastity - France/England
Greed/Charity - Estonia/Lithuania
Gluttony/Temperance - America/Canada
Wrath/Patience - Turkey/Japan
Envy/Trust - Belarus/Ukraine
Sloth/Diligence - Greece/Austria

FFF I dunno. I'm watching Fullmetal Alchemist right now so I'm kinda basing it on that. /shot

Thanks! Not too sure about Russia being gluttony, tho...

...Oh gosh get out of my mind plz. I have been pondering about this just sometime ago.

The more obvious ones
Lust: France
Self-control/diligence: Germany
Sloth and to a lesser extent, gluttony: Italy

The ones that come to mind but seem kind of off
Wrath: ...I can't make up my mind about this. Switzerland is grumpy but not exactly wrathful. Russia? Albeit a silent sort of wrath.

Edit: Oh pffft. Pride: Prussia and Envy: Romano

Note that my choices are based on Hetalia's character design instead of historical basis.

I put Greed as England (because of imperialism an the British Empire) and Chastity as Liechtenstein. Charity as Finland, Austria as Patience. And maybe Gluttony as N.Italy XD So much pasta....

Wrath/Patience...?

To me, it sounds like Turkey/Greece... (they just came to mind first)... Just saying. I dunno though. =-=/

Pride - England. Humility - Sealand.
Lust - France. Chastity - Spain.
Greed - Russia. Charity - Lithuania.
Gluttony - America. Temperance - Canada.
Wrath - China. Patience - Japan.
Envy - Romano. Kindness- Italy.
Sloth - Prussia. Diligence - Germany.

Hum, just a quick thought - maybe Russia = Gluttony because he is often seen as abusing alchool?

Pride/Humility-->N. Italy/S. Italy I think this is the most obvious.
Lust/Chastity-->France/Lichtenstein France is the stereotype, but he's perfect. And Lichtenstein is so cute and adorable. c':
Greed/Charity-->Türkiye/Finland The Ottoman Empire. Finland seems like a nice guy.
Gluttony/Temperance or self-control-->Russia/Egypt Russia drinks a lot, and he's big. Gluttony is just an over-excess. America could fit, too. Egypt is the posterboy of self-control and no expression.
Wrath/Patience-->Switzerland/Canada Switzerland threatens to shoot people. Wrath. Canada must have the patience of a saint to put up with what others put him through..._Who?
Envy/Kindness-->Belarus/Taiwan She wants to marry her brother. Envy is a stressed want. And kindness...I couldn't think of anyone else. :/
Sloth/Diligence-->Spain/Germany Siestas~ German diligence.

Best of luck. c:

=^..^=~

I have seen pictures on 4chan that were the Seven Deadly Sins
and I thought they were spot on. >>
I cannot provide links at this moment. xD
but this is what they were:
Pride - Germany
Greed - Prussia
Wrath - Russia
Sloth - Greece
Gluttony - America
Lust - England
I do not remember who Envy was, but I would say Envy would be Sealand... since he wants so badly to be a nation >>

THIS. YES! ROFL 8D

Or it could be they both use the same VA~ /shot

I would say America is Gluttony, but also Charity. He eats too much, but he also has very generous actions.

Pride/Humility= S. Italy/N. Italy
Lust/Chastity= Hungary/Austria
Greed/Charity= Russia/Liet
Gluttony/Temperance= American/Canada
Wrath/Patience= Finland/Sweden or Turkey/Japan
Envy/Kindness= England/Spain
Sloth/Diligence= Prussia/Germany

Just my ideas.

Prussia is the personification of Pride. He totally should have been in FMA.

"Lets make many profits!

China = Greed

Especially modern day China

While I will admit I find it rather suspicious that you're doing a Sins/Virtues Hetalia story - I've been doing the same thing since January - I stil thnk it's pretty cool. Hmm...

Pride/Humility - Prussia/...someone (I used Germany/N. Italy in mine.)
Lust/Chastity - France/Seychelles (I used this in mine.)
Greed/Charity - Switzerland, Austria, England...someone like that/Liechtenstein... Why Liechtenstein? Just 'cause (Prussia/Liechtenstein in mine.)
Gluttony/Temperance - America/Canada (I used this in mine.)
Wrath/Patience - Russia/Lithuania (I used this one in mine.)
Envy/Kindness - ...I don't really know. (I used England/my OC Bahamas in mine.)
Sloth/Diligence - Greece/Japan (I used this in mine.)

...Though, I am curious where your friend got the idea from. *overly suspicious*

EXACTLY. 8D

ahh...sorry, but history-wise, I won't really consider Spain for Charity or Kindness(conquistador anyone?). That and him being a country of 'la passion'. I see him better as Wrath, but one that hides behind a happy-go-lucky facade.

Anyway, here's my list;
Pride: Austria or Prussia...depending on how classy you want to be
Humility: Veneciano
Lust: Belarus
Chastity: Liechtenstein
Greed: Turkey
Charity: Canada
Envy: Romano
Kindness: Ukraine
Sloth: Greece
Diligence: Germany
Wrath: Spain
Gluttony: America
Temperance: Japan
Patience: Lithuania

Becoming one with me, CAN I EAT?!

Lust - France. Chastity - Spain

Yes ! Even if Antonio is not like that anymore, it would be interesting to bring back this cliché which has endured centuries.

Sorry, I didn't find a subbed video of this Fellini's Casanova extract. Dubois (the host) and the people in pink are French, the people dressed in black are Spanish (except Casanova). (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lq8LB0xdO1M)

i don't know much but im really sure pride will be England.
prussia being "im awesome" thinbg is not really detructive (LOLWUT?)

but englands pride is kind of... what's with all dark(emo) and bad thing happen because of his pride.
the unwilling to surender to germany because of HIS PRIDE! and others...

so yeah... for me
England=Pride

Well, my friend barely touches her Internet, that's for sure. She's only doing drabbles and has very little confidence in herself as an author, which is why I'm asking for her.

I can assure you she never got the idea from anywhere. The Sins/Virtues are actually pretty common.

I actually once had this conversation with someone and we settled on

Pride was Germany, Lust was France of course lol, Greed was England (all those colonies), Wrath was Prussia, Gluttony was Russia and Envy was Canada.

Humility I would say is more so Latvia or one of the Baltics. Chastity being Austria and his prudishness, Charity (and I know I will be shot for saying it) but America. While America normally gets ragged on for being a big greedy nation they do a lot to rush in and help other countries during crisis.
Temperance...Japan. Patience, Spain (he looked after Romano!) and Kindness as Hungary and trust as North Italy.

tl:dr version

Pride = Germany Humility = Baltics
Lust = France Chastity = Austria
Greed = England Charity = America
Gluttony = Russia Temperance = Japan
Wrath = Prussia/S.Italy Patience = Spain
Envy = Canada Kindness = N.Italy
Sloth = GREECE rofl Diligence = Hungary (diligent waifu)

my bad, kindess as N.Italy and Hungary as diligence.

And my reasoning behind Canada being envy is....well honestly, I have one friend who is Canadian and this may not be true of all Canadians, I have known her since I was 17 and she always would get in a bunch if America beat out Canada in ANY sport during the olympics and would often criticize me and my friends for showing any kind of patriotism. So I settled on that, but honestly these could be interchanged multiple ways between each other, Prussia could even be sloth or gluttony depending on what time period he is. And England either greed or Diligence.

THISSS

Pride/Humility = Japan all by himself. It's the story of Japan in the XX century. If not,
America = Pride / Canada = humility

Uh, obvious France = Lust / Liechtenstein = Chastity

England = Greed / Italy = Charity

America = Gluttony / Austria = Temperance (or self-control)

South Italy = Wrath / Sweden = Patience

Prussia (or South Italy) = Envy / Ukraine = Kindness

Greece = Sloth / Lithuania (or China) = Diligence

The whys:
-Pride/Humility. Japan used to be incredibly proud but got off that pedestal by the end of WWII. America is incredibly proud of himself and his doings, and will talk your ear off about that. Canada doesn't mind being overshadowed by his brother and confused by him, and only feels bad about the fact that nobody remembers him. He bears his brother's overbearingness extremely well

-Lust/Chastity. France is the nation of love and a self-declared pervert. Liechtenstein, not only screams virginal to me, but doesn't seem sexual at all, doesn't have any strong itnerest in anyone other than her brother, who will, if all this is proven wrong, castrate anyone that comes near his sister anywayXD

-Greed/Charity. The British Empire. Italy seems to be the only one concerned for everyone in pain and trying to make everybody happy and always being surroudned by joy and happy people ^^

-Gluttony/Temperance. America is ambitious and has troubles controlling himself in all aspects (apetite, mouth, strength, his own personality). Austria is the opposite, restraint and self-control taken to the extreme.

-Wrath/Patience. South Italy is always angry at everyone and everything. Prussia could also work, but he's too flippantXD. Sweden is patient and hard-working in everything, his work, his relationship with those important to him, and never gets anxious about advancing things more quickly, and isn't impetuous at all

-Envy/Kindness. Prussia is envious of Austria and/or Hungary, and the world at large for not being alone like he is. He also misses being a nation like the others. South Italy works better because he's conscious about his jealousy (while Prussia's seems to be unconscious), because he's extremely insecure and has big issues of self-steem, specially in regards to his brother. Ukraine is kind and loving to his little siblings, even after it's been proven to her they're both nutcasesXD, and she has a sweet motherly personality

-Sloth/Diligence. Greece is always sleeping. Lithuania is the man to get the work done, as seen in the Middle Ages or what a good servant he makes in more present strips. China is also hardworking and his presence is felt all around the world, and he always travels to other countries to work.

It was a given that I wouldn't have been the only one to think FMA when I saw this post. XD

AHA. These fit so well! x]

Austria as Temperance, interesting

Agree 100% with Romano for envy and Prussia for pride~! Well I mean, I agree with the rest too xD but you know, those the very most cause it's so dead on!

Aaah I was waiting for someone to list Spain as being wrathful, because that's exactly what I was thinking too~! Historically speaking, they were pretty bad xD (Inquisition plz.) Yeah, I completely agree with you!

And I love Spain's dark side being brought out 8D

England... chastity????

Pride/Humility = Prussia (oresama) / Lituania
Lust/Chastity = France / Lichtenstein
Greed/Charity = America / N. Italy
Gluttony/Temperance = America / Japan
Envy/Kindness = Russia / Finland
Sloth/Diligence = Spain / Germany
Wrath/Patience = S. Italy / Greece (too many, see ep.14)

Compared to France XD

Ooh, Dark Spain is indeed luuuuv!

...though I can;t believe I actually said that, coming from a former Spanish colony. hahaha! but the intrigue!!!xD

ah, of course ;P

I'm going to list more than one for each cause I really don't like leaving countries out :D ( repeated some... cause unfortunately they fit two but there's more than one for each so pick one :D

Pride/Humility = England, Prussia/ Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia
Lust/Chastity = France, Korea (jokingly) / Liechtenstein, England, Canada
Greed/Charity = Switzerland,(sorry Vash!) Austria, Russia ("Become one with me!") America / N. Italy, Liechtenstein, China
Gluttony/Temperance = America, Russia, Latvia (something about drinking a lot), Korea (wants everything of China's) / Japan, Egypt, Norway, Iceland
Envy/Kindness = Russia, Sealand / Finland, Spain (hetalia-canon), N. Italy
Sloth/Diligence = N.S. Italy, Poland, Spain / Germany, China, Hong Kong
Wrath/Patience = S. Italy, Hungary, Turkey, Denmark / Greece, Japan, Sweden

(I don't know enough about Austrialia, Morocco, Belgium or Netherlands to try)

I feel bad about France being the only one for lust... so I put Korea... I need more for lust..

I really don't want to have to think for the others since I have a major headache, but it would be a hard one for Japan

Patience, Humility, Dilligence, Kindness, he seems like all of them to me(when I first thought, other ones are many too!)

Pride/Humility – Prussia/Lithuania
Lust/Chastity – France/Liechtenstein
Greed/Charity – China/Spain
Gluttony/Temperance – America/Canada
Wrath/Patience – Turkey/Japan
Envy/Kindness – Romano/Ukraine
Sloth/Diligence – Greece/Germany

:D

[DISCUSSION] Seven Deadly Sins/Seven Heavenly Virtues with the Nations?

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My two cents

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...though I can;t believe I actually said that, coming from a former Spanish colony. hahaha! but the intrigue!!!xD

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