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Just found this while skimming Austria's biography here.

1) "It's implied that Gilbert and Roderich are both living in Ludwig's house." Wait... Beyond "for the lulz", why is that? o.o; I understand why Gilbert would be there, but doesn't Roderich have his own house? The wording of that sentence makes it seem like it's modern time... but I suppose it could also refer to when Roderich lived with Ludwig during the two World Wars?

2) "In a character note, it says he spent some time in a wheelchair." WHY?! ;A; The poor baby!

3) It says elsewhere (in N.Italy or Hungary's biography, I think) that Roderich and Elizaveta raised Italy to adulthood together after HRE left the house. Is there actual historical basis for that or is that just a Hetalia quirk to keep the HRE "family" together? O.o; I'm not complaining because I love that little "family", but it's just interesting that N.Italy doesn't really mention how they're his adoptive parents, aside from simply living with Austria in his childhood.

4) Where in the manga does it reveal that Austria is afraid of marine animals? XD;;; I really want to read this, but I'm having a hard time finding it!

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1) Yes it would seem to imply the period of the Anschluss during World War 2 between Germany and Austria

2) I'm guessing it maybe refers to the fact that the Austrians were beat up quite alot during the French Revolutionary Wars and the Napoleonic Wars.

3) There are quite a few North Italians who can claim to have some Austrian/Germanic blood in them because for a while some of the Northern Italian states were kinda absorbed as part of the Habsburg Empire or something eg. Tyrol- half of it is now Austrian and half of it is Italian. So in a sense Italy was "part" of Austria for quite some time. Hungary was probably thrown into the mix due to its unofficial marriage to Austria which wasn't official until 1867.

4) It hasn't been stated yet, but I'm sure being a land-locked country he'd be scared of anything marine-related...that or his delicate sensibilities are kicking in :D

1) Hm, maybe the present tense in that sentence just confused me. ^^; (Haha, having Ludwig, Gilbert AND Roderich in the same house must've been interesting. xD I tend to forget that Gilbert is there during the WW's as well.)

2) Ahhh... It's just odd that it'd be shown in such an extreme manner, I guess, considering how many countries are beat up in Hetalia and seem to be fine the next day. ^^; Thanks for clarifying. Or maybe Roderich is just fragile. 8D

3) Ah yes, I remember reading this on the HRE Wiki page way back in the day. That's also why Ludwig says that him and N.Italy share common blood, isn't it? That's cool to know. ^^

4) PHHHHT It's probably a mixture of both. xD; I don't recall seeing other land-locked countries freaking out over crabs (like Switzerland, but I guess he doesn't get freaked out over much).

1. Hahahahahaha...Gilbert would've technically not have been doing much except being in charge of the Wehrmacht (the national German army which is distinguished from the Nazis somewhat) which consisted I think of mainly Prussians- hence why his original uniform design is blue :D

2. Austria traditionally is seen as being better at diplomatic alliances (and therefore marriages lol) than being a strong military power...that title goes to the Prussians in the Germanic region XD

3. I have an Italian friend who has Austrian blood in him and it always amuses me when I think about it in Hetalia terms!

1) Whoa, the Wehrmacht was made of mainly Prussians? O.o; I studied them briefly in a Soviet Union class, but I don't remember that being mentioned. *googles*

2) HEHE Of course he would be better with words than with swords. xD Sometimes he WAS quite good at winning wars, but him and Prussia just... yeah. Poor baby!Germany, I always imagined him cowering somewhere as his brother and Austria squabble over him, lol.

3) Hahaha, really? I have a 100% Italian family that I'm good friends with (they're living in the U.S., but almost everything in their house is imported) that has a German-born/bred/trained dog that only understands German commands. It amuses me. 8D Ah, where would we be without Hetalia to make life more entertaining than it already is, hahaha.

1) Whoa, the Wehrmacht was made of mainly Prussians?

No they weren't. Not at all.

(the national German army which is distinguished from the Nazis somewhat)

That's right, because the army constisted of ordinary german (and austrian etc.) men (as in 'everybody who could carry a weapon'), not only of brown shirts.

1) Well, if you look waaaay back, so many today-nations would live in HRE´s house. At the peak of HRE´s might Germany (though only approximately two-thirds), France, Belgium, Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein and North Italy (I hope I forgot no-one ^^;) were parts of him. They became independent and/or just parted with him eventually. Also, HRE is older than Prussia and Austria. Therefore, if Germany (Ludwig) IS HRE (which he more or less is historically, though it's a bit more complicated), Germany is the older brother and Gilbo the younger.
I'm not sure about more recent history though. <<; I can't say that it interests me.

2) Maybe he got some serious ass-kicking?

3) Uhm, the history of the HRE is a bit complex so... well... There was a time, after Charles the Great had died, where there were three kingdoms that formed the HRE. Just because Charles decided to split the realm into three, because he had three sons (which was kinda stupid). The first kingdom was more or less France, Belgium, the left half of the Netherlands and a tiny bit of Spain. The second kingdom was some kind of... "stripe". It contained the other half of the Netherlands and then went straight down to the Mediterranean Sea, containing Switzerland, Austria and North Italy (It's a bit hard to explain it ^^;). The third Kingdom contained most of the modern day Germany (without Brandenburg and Mecklenburg-Vorpommern) and a tiny part of Hungary.
But now back to the question. Those three brothers fought against each other because they wanted to conquer each other. Now, the brother of the kingdom in the middle lost the "stripe" part to his brothers and the only thing that was left for him, was Switzerland, Austria, and North Italy. Though this is all very early, about the 8th century, so I don't know if this really answers your question.
And, uhm, later on Austria conquered Hungary, so that she would live with him in the same house. Italy was just already there.

1) Hahaha, awesome. XD I did know most of that from reading HRE's wikipedia page (fascinating stuff!) but my knee-jerking reaction from reading that description on Austria's bio was that he was living in Ludwig's house right NOW, which made me go "wtflol". xD

2) That's what everyone's saying, yeah. ^^;

3) O___________________o; Whoa, I didn't know that. That's pretty crazy stuff, thanks for letting me know!

4)The scene with Austria and the marine animals is in one of the drama CDs. I think it's the last track on the first drama CD, but I'm not so sure.

AH, that would explain why I can't find it. ^^; Thank you! *goes to search for downloads of the CD*

Maybe Italy doesn't talk about his experiences in Austria's house because he was a jerk about the whole pasta situation, among other things? idk it does seem a bit odd, though I think it's implied that he has at least mentioned Hungary. It wasn't a direct thing, but there's a scene where Germany is thinking of people to call to ask for help on how to deal with Italy, and he did think of Hungary for a moment; "How about Hungary? She did raise him..." or something like that.

And yeah, the "living in Ludwig's house" thing is a WWII thing. It's probably in present tense because the main storyline is WWII, so, even though we don't get much of the main storyline, it's technically supposed to be the common present time in Hetalia.

A lot of people are confused about the wheelchair thing, myself included. And I hadn't heard the "afraid of marine animals" thing before, but that is kind of hilarious.

~~Roderich was indeed a jerk about the pasta thing, but maybe he had this whole "must remain slim and fit" thing going on...~~ Ah yeah, I do remember Ludwig vaaaguely thinking something like that. ^^;

Ah, true true.

Hahaha according to other people that just commented on this entry, the marine animals thing is from one of the first drama CD's where Austria admitted that he didn't like going outside (and hated marine animals at the same time). Hence why there are random drawings of people (usually Prussia) chasing after Austria with a crab.

Yeah, I saw that. I wonder if anyone ever subbed that drama CD...I don't know Japanese and I fail at following along with scripts ;;

I have a sub of it laying around, but I think it's from a year ago at least. I have no concept of what courtesy goes for re-sharing that kind of thing, but I could always upload it if you're interested.

If you would, that would be great!

Done (http://www.mediafire.com/?m2mmmwwjw2m) (:

Thanks! Apparently I'm an idiot, though, and I actually already downloaded that a while back, but forgot to do anything with it. Sorry to make you go through the trouble! Hopefully someone else will find it useful.

I second this. :D Please upload it!

Here (http://www.mediafire.com/?m2mmmwwjw2m) (:

Thank you! :D

1) If it is set in modern times I think it'd be more of the characters themselves than historical basis. . .Austria could have found it too tedious to move out of Germany's house. I mean. . .he does sort of give off a lazy vibe.
Plus, Boun San Valentino. . .well, I always thought that was in present and he lived and slept in his house in that. Then again, he also told Prussia he'd send things he didn't want to his house, implying that he doesn't. . . .
And in the strip with Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Austria, and Prussia, Prussia made it sound like Roderich was responsible for making breakfast/dinner and such when he told him to stop serving leftovers for breakfast--serving implying Roderich wasn't the only one eating.
Basically it is as it says--it's implied. Gilbert has pretty much been confirmed to live with Germany. Austria, however, seems to switch from living with him and not present day--then again, we don't have timestamp things for a lot of the strips, so it could just be the Anschluß making them live together.

2) It was never stated, although, like

eur0philia said, he was beat up a lot at certain times in his history. It could be anything really, no specifics were given.

The other two are pretty much the same as what

eur0philia said, although it was stated, on a drama CD, that Austria didn't like being outside(apparently) and was afraid of marine animals. There's no drawn strip for it, however.

1) Whoa, I like that theory! LOL XD He WOULD totally take over Ludwig's house. Ludwig cleans it so well that Roderich probably finds the house "easier to take care of" than his own. (Poor Ludwig.)

Yeah, the implication was mentioned when I looked around. Apparently Prussia's blogs from the manga also mention that he was living together with his brother and Roderich. Frankly, I'm surprised Ludwig's house didn't get burned down somehow. :/

". . .You can go home now?"
"I'd rather stay here. I'm hungry, can you get me some cake?"
"Go ho--"
"/gets phone, like he's going to call Italy"
"/Grumbles, goes off to get the cake"

They do. He said to clean his room and stop leaving his things in the living room, he told him to come home and help him clean the house, when Switzerland came over to discuss business in the CD Germany was also there, he said in the blog that Germany went to sleep and that he'd go to sleep soon, too. . . . Plus when he spilt ice cream on his laptop there was a pic at the end with Germany staring at it like "You have got to be kidding me, Bruder. . . .".

It probably has. Either it regenerated because nations' houses seem to be special and dependent on certain factors of the country itself(size, wealth, etc) or Germany and Prussia fixed it again.

Edited 2010-05-07 22:33 (UTC)

4) Most Austrians do not eat a lot of seafood since it is not traditional Austrian food (not a lot of fish is eaten either, just lots of meat) and they are not used to it, and because Austria has no sea :P

xD Ooooh that makes sense. I understand that, the part of China I'm from is totally landlocked so we have very few seafood dishes. When I go to Shanghai or Hong Kong, I'm blown away by the seafood there because I almost never eat it at home. ^^;

Hehe yeah there is a saying in German:
"Was der Bauer nicht kennt, frisst er nicht" - "What the farmer doesn't know, he won't devour" :P haha

Now this makes me wonder if Italy remembers anything from when he was little O.o, well, without taking the last episode into account of course >.O

I certainly hope so. ^^; I love the Austria/Hungary/HRE/Italy family so much. ;A; Roderich is strict, but he seems like he can be really paternal and kind when he's not being all posh and arrogant. XD

I think so too! Aww, paternal Roderich x).
I do hope Italy says or remember something about them ^^.
I'm sorry I didn't really answer any of your questions ;^;.

For number two, I actually recall reading that he was in a wheelchair during the post WWI era, which makes sense, seeing as Austria was split into several other countries and lost a lot of territory. If I can find the source, I'll link you. :3

Ooooh yeah, please let me know! ;A; That makes me sad, and it also makes me wonder why other countries can be severely beaten up one day and be fine. A wheelchair would imply that he was hurt (very badly) for a long, long time, even by nations' standards. @_@;

Here are my thoughts 8D

1) Roderich was living in Ludwigs house after the Anschluss in 1938. But they're not living together anymore.

2) Probably because after WWI the mighty empire collapsed and turned Austria in a tiny country. That was actually a very traumatic event and a lot of people lost their trust in their country back then and said that Austria will not be able to keep living and will die >_<

3) Uhh...pretty much that what everybody else said here 8D''

4) Uhh...I don't know XD But probably because Austria is a landlocked country without sea. Also what Kayu_Blossom said is true :)
Meat is very popular, you usually eat fish only on Friday (well, at least we do that xD)

1) Gotcha.

2) Oh geez. DDD: Yeah, I've definitely noticed that even while skimming through maps. Austria and its empire used to be HUGE, and now it's one of the smaller countries in Europe. Poor Austria. D:

4) Hahaha that's cute. xD; I guess it does cost more to import it from the seas and stuff.

2) Yeah...we were so huge...now we are tiny 8D
But I'm pretty sure the wheelchair story refers to that what happened after WWI, since Austria was really close to die at that time ;°;

4) Uh, I dunno, but I guess so :D
I think we mostly get our fish from Canada or from the Nordic countries (like Norway), but we also have pisci culture here :)

2.) I don't think it's ever explicitly stated, but as others have mentioned, it's usually assumed he was in a wheelchair post-WWI. Austria lost a lot of land (and his wife) because of the war, the government afterward wasn't exactly what you'd call "stable," the economy was fantastically terrible, and there were more than a couple riots in the '20s. All in all, it was a Very Bad Time for him. (Kind of like how a country will catch a cold when they're in a slump, except this slump was so severe he lost the use of his legs.) At least that's the generally accepted fanon, it seems.

4.) It's not in the manga, only in the audio drama. They're stuck on an island, and Austria complains that he prefers to view nature through a window, not personally experience it (or something to that effect). Then Italy shows him a crab (I think? maybe something else?) and Austria literally runs away screaming. Because it's an audio-drama-only incident, people have speculated how "canon" it really is. (To be honest, I always found it, at least the screaming in terror, a bit...OOC, even by Austria's posh standards. <_< It's much too undignified. XD) Hope the response isn't too late and hope that helps! :D

1. Yeah, the "timeline" is always very confusing, one can never be sure if a strip is taking place in modern times or is still stuck in WWII era. I agree, I don't get the wording of it.

2. When I first read the wheelchair thing, I automatically assumed "OMG WWI OMG Treaty of St. Germain OMG OMG INTERWAR TRAUMA." The collapse of Austria-Hungary/the Austrian Revolution was...intense. And the Republic of Austria was pretty unpopular because it was financially and economically destitute, very few people had any hope that it would survive for long; the fact that the Republic lasted as long as 15 years (before Dollfuss took over and went pseudo-fascist) is kind of surprising. I mean it was called "the state no one wanted" among other degrading names. :(

3. Italian history is fairly confusing, since back in the day it was a bunch of individual states, some of which spent a while under Austrian control. Since Austria's had bits and pieces of Italy from the 1500's through WWI, it kind of makes sense to have the family setting. Most rebelled from Austria in the Italian Independence Wars from 1848-1866 and united (I think Himaruya briefly mentioned this somewhere). Finally Austria lost the bits he still had control of after WWI.

4. Maybe it's because Austria doesn't have an ocean? XD I dunno, he doesn't seem like a "hang out at the beach" kind of guy. Or anything that could be out of his comfort zone.

Austria's fear of marine life was not from the manga, but it's from an audio drama. Which is better because you can hear his girly screaming. You can listen to the clip here: http://hyper-parfait.blogspot.com/2010/04/hetalia-drama-cds.html It's track # 8 on volume 1.

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