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Mother Russia. Who is she?
In the fan-works and commentaries Ivan often says "One with Mother Russia" or the variant of the phrase - "One with Russia."
I think that the reason for the joke - a historical feature of nicknames and the image of Russia.
But if this opinion can be given up - what do you think?
Who is the Mother Russia? Or why does Ivan (if he says about himself) seriously identify himself so?
:)
I think that the reason for the joke - a historical feature of nicknames and the image of Russia.
But if this opinion can be given up - what do you think?
Who is the Mother Russia? Or why does Ivan (if he says about himself) seriously identify himself so?
:)
@LOL@
Poor bear! >_<
"Great Game" and "Cold war" marred the reputation of this noble beast! Only one, who never got into a den (for example, a lion or eagle) and then ran away from a bear, can say that the bear is clumsy! :) And, after all - all players were predator without exception. :)
Russia’s female personification was used against her too. Philosophers and politicians of European countries did it - especially in German Empire and Britain Empire. These nations were called “male” in the works.
Russia was imputed to the negative feminine traits, such as: she is guided by emotions but not reason and necessity, as a result, she is amotivational and extreme cruel. Also: spontaneity, duplicity, mendacity, inclination to anarchy, capriciousness, imitation, the inability to creation, tendency to subordinate the power ... And the conclude was done - may be it’s cruel necessity, but
external control over her should be done. Otherwise - a woman without control reasonable and responsible husband - forever will injure herself and her neighbors. In addition, unmarried (uncontrolled) she will never display her femininity talents (positive part of it). The woman is an attachment of a man, not self-sufficient person.
So they spoke about Russia till the 1 and the 2 world wars.
Bismarck’s words:
«All Russian are feminine. And in union with the masculine Teutonic race - they can produce, or would be produced, over time, a wonderful human material for the history».
Hitler dreamed of creating the "paradise on the earth" on conquered lands of East Europe in which the manly Aryan Germans will occupy the top of society and do creative and political work. And living the Slavs will do something for which they were intended. They must obey, and to be engaged in farming, do ordinary routine work, can count to 100 and go to a church. «Kuche, Kirche, Kinder» (kitchen, church, child) is the formula of an ideal of feminine behavior in the rigid patriarchal society.
In Russian philosophy the state and the motherland (homeland) is a different concept. Motherland (home, place of birth) is a mother, and the state (government, state apparatus, army, etc.) is a father. This is a very long time for explain why so it is. But a couple of examples: in the Middle Ages, a wedding dress of Tsar’s bride decorated with images of Russian cities (the symbol of marriage Tsar and Russia). And in 20 century one of nicknames of Stalin was "Father of nations”.
Russians say "We live in the best Motherland in the world, but in the most terrible state."
It's some Oedipus complex at the national level! >_<
Re: @LOL@
This kind of stuff is so interesting. You'd think symbols like that wouldn't mean that much, but they end saying all kinds of things, huh. ;) Like how most countries, regardless of their personifications, are referred to as feminine to imply ownership. Women are owned, and so the female land is also owned.
lol, Oedipus complex. That fits way too well!