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hetalia2008-12-11 06:27 pm
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A paper published on 'national character'
I'm not sure if this counts as discussion material but it was just too 'appropriate' for that to scare me off. (Also in a kind of extension of the post a while before about views on nation's stereotypes.)
Science gets the last laugh on ethnic jokes
Study shows that real personalities don’t match national stereotypes
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9598717/
Some snippets of the article for interest-piquing:
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If national stereotypes aren’t rooted in real experiences, then where do they come from?
One possibility is that they reflect national values, which may emerge from historical events. For example, many historians have argued that the spirit of American individualism has its origins in the experiences of the pioneers in the Old West.
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The authors found that in most of the countries, the two personality profiles that were based on information from real people matched each other reasonably well. But they were significantly different from the stereotype profile.
“There was essentially no agreement between people’s perceptions of the typical personality [in their culture] and what we actually measured,” McCrae said.
The one exception was Poland, where the ratings from volunteers provided a better-than-usual match between typical and real personalities, suggesting the volunteers were better at seeing past stereotypes to perceive people as they really are.
Perhaps in heaven, the therapists are Polish.
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Yeah, that's a reference to the "In heaven...In hell" quote that's posted at the beginning of the article, and was also the topic of a scanslation if my memory serves me.
As further discussion prodding, I might bring this up -- do the Nations embody 1) the general feelings and mindset of their country's people at any particular time, 2) the stereotypes held about that country that, according to the above study, would not likely match an average citizen of said country? or of course the obvious 3) both in some fashion.
My two cents says that perhaps the 'personality' of the Nation ends up matching to the stereotype, and their actions end up matching history. Or perhaps the 'national stereotype' is merely how other Nations typify them, and how they may even typify themselves, when in reality they're all very complex and multifaceted? *is at risk of sounding literarily pretentious XP*
Thoughts anyone?
Science gets the last laugh on ethnic jokes
Study shows that real personalities don’t match national stereotypes
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9598717/
Some snippets of the article for interest-piquing:
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If national stereotypes aren’t rooted in real experiences, then where do they come from?
One possibility is that they reflect national values, which may emerge from historical events. For example, many historians have argued that the spirit of American individualism has its origins in the experiences of the pioneers in the Old West.
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The authors found that in most of the countries, the two personality profiles that were based on information from real people matched each other reasonably well. But they were significantly different from the stereotype profile.
“There was essentially no agreement between people’s perceptions of the typical personality [in their culture] and what we actually measured,” McCrae said.
The one exception was Poland, where the ratings from volunteers provided a better-than-usual match between typical and real personalities, suggesting the volunteers were better at seeing past stereotypes to perceive people as they really are.
Perhaps in heaven, the therapists are Polish.
-----
Yeah, that's a reference to the "In heaven...In hell" quote that's posted at the beginning of the article, and was also the topic of a scanslation if my memory serves me.
As further discussion prodding, I might bring this up -- do the Nations embody 1) the general feelings and mindset of their country's people at any particular time, 2) the stereotypes held about that country that, according to the above study, would not likely match an average citizen of said country? or of course the obvious 3) both in some fashion.
My two cents says that perhaps the 'personality' of the Nation ends up matching to the stereotype, and their actions end up matching history. Or perhaps the 'national stereotype' is merely how other Nations typify them, and how they may even typify themselves, when in reality they're all very complex and multifaceted? *is at risk of sounding literarily pretentious XP*
Thoughts anyone?
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thank you. don't wanna piss on anyone's ship parade, the two tans are cute together, don't get me wrong -- but delusions of fantastic relations are just...delusions.
*so off-topic*
i have to agree with the "one characteristic at one time" explanation. nations change so drastically because the rulers change, the policies change, etc. etc. ad nauseum. then there's a good dose of stereotypes sprinkled in.
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