http://laughswithroar.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] laughswithroar.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] hetalia2011-06-09 07:19 am

Characterization Pet Peeves

What are your characterization pet peeves?

That is to say, what portrayal of Hetalia characters do you see in fanfic that really bug you? Personally I'm tired of seeing spineless wimp Canada or his counterpart super snarky Canada who always has something witty to say, cackling rapist Russia, and drooling moron America.


[identity profile] naturethezafara.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
First time posting on a discussion thread! Whoo~!

I'm the type who searches for certain pairings when it comes to Hetalia fiction, so I don't see much on the fanfic personification of some characters. But I hate, hate, HATE it when fics portray Yao as a cold-hearted jerk with no regards for other characters. ;A; Yao-nini is much nicer than that, aru! But basically, I just hate it when anyone's character is derailed for the negative, ESPECIALLY in shipping fics.
I saw an AsaKiku fanfic once that didn't portray Heracles in a much positive light. It angered me, despite the fact that I myself ship AsaKiku and prefer Heracles and Kiku as good friends.

So yeah. My two cents on this.

[identity profile] aislingthegreat.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
Too-tsundere-to-function-in-society England whose every other word is "git" "wanker" or "bloody hell" makes me rageface. Or at least sigh and move on to the next fic. Also asshole!France needs to not be around.
ext_232730: (englandfairy)

[identity profile] the-gabih.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 11:57 am (UTC)(link)
This, plus weak, crybaby England. Because seriously, anyone remember the British Empire?

[identity profile] kainoliero.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 12:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Sw'd'n sp'k. Helpless crybaby moeblob anyone. Denmark treated like a harmless comic relief sidekick/groping rapist.

[identity profile] hoshiko-2000.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Any characterisation that is just bad I guess. I can't think of any specific type in particular, but I do just hate crappy and poor characterisations. I can remember reading one FF where Japan's characterisation was so bad I was thinking 'seriously, are we talking about the same character?'? He was using words like 'yay' and 'what's up?', and it was so bad it made me cringe. And I don't like it when Italy's made overly pathetic and babyish.

[identity profile] animepursuit.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the reasoning is sadly some fans are OBVIOUS when it is only the anime version of the characters they are basing their fanfiction on. That is what upsets me because if they knew any better they would know Hetalia was a webcomic first and more of the stories and characteristics are there. I get annoyed at people who insist Canada is weak but going by the webcomics he showed BACKBONE. Also Romano gets a lot of flak....A LOT. He was nice to Spain and beat up the mob for him but not many people know about that strip and it took me a while to find it as well.

All I get annoyed with is when a fanfic writer only relies on one source for characterizing the Hetalia crew. They all have more depth than what Deen placed in the show and the characters shouldn't suffer for their reluctance to transfer some issues of the webcomic into a anime episode...or severely bash Japan. Hima-papa was way more fun with Japan's character than Deen and I think he suffered the most.

[identity profile] papaveri.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm with Hoshiko_2000 with the characterization. I actually can read fanfics for whatever pairing as long as the characterization is well done, and man does it make a difference between a good fic and a bad fic. Also, the thing about the anime-only writers >:

But I'm concerned the most with the characterization certain characters get in certain fanfics... not only it grates on plain character bashing, but it's almost offensive :/ I don't want the Hetalia section of FF.net to become the Land of the Misplaced Nationalism. And I'm thinking about certain Spanish fanfics that make Alfred a self-worshipping bastard who wants to take over the world at any cost, but I'm sadly sure that it happens with more characters and more languages.

[identity profile] wafflesama.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 01:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Weak, too-tsundere England. And pervert England. And Pervert America.
And asshole bitchface who just loves to injure England!France :p

And evil!Spain. o3o

[identity profile] shuriken7.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I would agree with some fanfic ending up as the land of Misplaced Nationalism with inappropriate bashing of a country's politics through the character. Honestly, if I wanted that I would just read political blogs, they manage to do enough of that.

[identity profile] goodnbedfred.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 02:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Derp!Spain. Or Derp!Italy. Or Derp!anyone! And I hate it when they make Italy call Germany "doitsu." HE'S FUCKING ITALIAN. /rage.
Also, I hate obsessiverapist!France and butterwouldntmeltinmymouth!Finland. Ugh, I have a lot of hate, hahaha.
Saying that though, those are mostly in the minority, but SHIT they make me rage.
And for some reason, I can't STAND super deredere!Romano. Or super tsuntsun!Romano either. Get a balance people!!!! Ahhh, okay, I'm done now :)

[identity profile] rekonia.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 02:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Rapetruck!Russia, pedo!England/France, and wimpy!England grates on my nerves. I also hate it when "hero" is the only thing that comes out of America's mind, and the only thing he thinks about, and when Hungary suddenly goes "Omg, I hate you cuz ur annoying!!11one!" to Prussia.

And Asshole!AnyNation, who is only an asshole and loses any to all canon traits just to be the stereotypical villain in the fanfic.

[identity profile] xxwolfgirlxx.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 02:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Be prepared for a lot.

I agree on wimpy england and canada. Also jerk-ass china and america, lithuania so meek he can't even be called a guy anymore (ooh totally not saying us girls are meek I just read these two fics that really might as well genderbent him with the way they wrote it)

Also green-eyed-monster greece, evil monster denmark aand to top it off stressing poland and sweden's speech patters till you lose brain cells just by reading it...but usually its hilarious when done right (like in these few certain crack fics I know) but when taken seriously its just like...wtf did they just say?

Aahh I'm very nit-picky :/

[identity profile] maisekai.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
And I hate it when they make Italy call Germany "doitsu." HE'S FUCKING ITALIAN. /rage.

THIS.

[identity profile] maisekai.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Dark!Anyone. Sinc Hetalia is so cute and lighthearted, it makes me sad to see its characters portrayed as evil ;_;

[identity profile] maisekai.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
*since

damn typos. :C

[identity profile] annabrella.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 02:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Extreme uke!Finland drives me up the wall..

[identity profile] conjure-lass.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm of the opinion that most characterizations (done within reason and not throwing canon completely out the window) can be perfectly fine with the right amount of writing skill. I've read characterizations that I thought were slightly off at first, but found it fit into the general scheme of what the writer was trying to accomplish as the story progressed. It's all about how the writer manages to get their story across and how that character fits into the plot.

But really...when did this become fanficrants?
Edited 2011-06-09 14:41 (UTC)

RANT AHOY

[identity profile] schizounicorn.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
*When people make Sweden omit every vowel ever in a fanfic. In cannon, he only omits one or two vowels per sentence.

*Wimpy, weepy, Moe Moe Desu Finland. He's cute and sweet, but he a;so happens to be male and have a backbone. I once even read a fic where Finland didn't understand the concept of sex and Sweden had to explain it to him. LOLWUT?

*Emotionless, Eats-Jewish-Babies-for-Breakfast Germany. Yes he was part of the SS, but no, he didn't seem to fond of Hitler.

Re: RANT AHOY

[identity profile] schizounicorn.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
*also

[identity profile] larosabelle.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Super uke!Any Nation, my God. Poor poor Finland and England.

Yangire/Yandere!Spain is one thing, but Yandere!Spain who gets off torturing Romano even though old characters notes said that Romano would be the only one he would actually be nice to if he was truly "two-faced"

Too stupid to function!America

Evil!Super Rapist!France

Wife beater!Austria or an Austria so cruel, neglectful and stuck up that it's clearly obvious that the author has forgotten that he can be a genuinely nice person.

[identity profile] arctoslupus.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 03:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I guess ever case is different, but I absolutely detest when writes have very flat characters that behave exactly the same, in every situation with "kolkolkol", "aru", "hero", "git", or random french in every other sentence just so you know what character's speaking. jfhglahkgfjldjghflgfjklghj.

[identity profile] bosscookie.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 03:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of my pet peeves that come to mind are with north Italy. He isn't Japanese so please don't say Doitsu. He is also not mentally disabled, don't make him act like it. He may be a bit silly and odd but he is not like some people make him. And there is more to the poor guy then "Veeee Germannyyyy pastaaaa". On the other hand, I also hate when people make him this secretly evil genius mastermind. I mean, I am all for things making him a tad bit darker but sometimes it gets ridiculous because they think he secretly wishes to murder everyone and such.

I don't like seeing Russia as a rapevan, for lack of better term. I assume you all get what I mean since I see this one a lot! France having no other dimension other than sex and rape kills me too. And I always feel bad for how everyone portrays poor Finland as this clueless moe blob! Poor guy.

I think in general I am not a fan of "evil nations". Sure everyone has their darker moments but some people are crazy! There are no real evil nations out there, sillies.

[identity profile] juandalyn.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
- uber uke!England. He was a MOTHERFUCKING EMPIRE.
- alright, make this uber uke everyone.
- rapetruck!Russia
- pervert-surrender-good-for-nothing!France. Come oooon.
- flanderization of any "ditz" character. Some writers tend to make Italy, Spain, Denmark and America not cute-silly, but plain stupid.
- obvious (!) hate on any character. This seems to happen... fortunately I'm not too much into fanfics anymore, but I've read several hate!fanfics on America, Japan, Italy... this makes me sad, I think we all should be allowed to dislike a character, but hating and especially bashing is so childish.
- I don't like nazi fics in general, it doesn't matter if they make Germany or any other character included look too good, bad or even neutral. I don't like the setting, it's making my heart heavy.
AND ESPECIALLY. HOLY WHATEVS. Please DON'T make up a Jewish-people-tan who gets tortured and raped. This may sound like an evil joke to some, but I've met people who thought that's really cool and kinky.
Normally I'd say "Your kink is not my kink, do whatever you want". But this is just... I don't know.
falkner: (YGO! ▪ Not amused)

[personal profile] falkner 2011-06-09 03:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I give up on most fics featuring Sweden because I can't even understand what he's saying most of the time.

[identity profile] rosetteroulette.livejournal.com 2011-06-09 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee, I think I have to agree with you. I won't hate anyone who's only seen the anime, but it does make me sad that they are missing a lot from the strips, some of which probably won't ever be animated. :(

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