http://nice-babana.livejournal.com/ ([identity profile] nice-babana.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] hetalia2010-06-21 06:38 pm

[Discussion] Hetalia Demographic

The other day, I had a thought about Hetalia as a whole:

"Just who exactly is this series aimed at now, anyway?"

I'm interested in getting three basic stats from everybody; their age, their sex, and their sexual orientation. I hear that good old "Hetalia is only for straight teenage girls fujoshi!" comment quite often outside the fandom, but it seems all the people I know and interact with IRL who like Hetalia don't really fit that profile. So, I'm polling [livejournal.com profile] hetalia to see who's actually here and if that assumption the world made about "us" is true.

[Poll #1581860]

WHY SEXUAL ORIENTATION IS A FACTOR: Guys. This is a series that consists of a staggering amount of pseudo-romantic relationships between men. Just think about that one for a minute.

But anyway, sexual orientation by itself is not a factor, since it really wouldn't matter on its own; it's your sex and sexual orientation put together that I'm looking at.

Also, obviously, this has nothing to do with "what Himaruya intended" in the beginning but rather what it's become since going fairly mainstream. Should have clarified that one, derp. (But wow, you guys, you make it sound like intentionally appealing to a certain type of people is like an ulterior motive or something, haha!)

I'm aware that there are a million other factors that should be taken into consideration (socioeconomic class, country of residence, etc.), but these three seem like the most basic and least intrusive. And then there's also the whole "only girls use LJ!" argument that could potentially throw this off, but since this is kind of the unofficial "base camp" for Hetalia fans, I figure it should be alright.

Ah, and if you answered 'Other' for your sexuality, a comment clarifying which flavor of 'Other' would be awesome. :3 ('Other' also includes 'Undecided,' since so many people seem to need everything spelled out.)

EDIT: Lol, why is everybody telling their "I got into Hetalia because..." stories? But okay, okay, I get it, it had nothing to do with boys kissing, I believe you! xD
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[identity profile] napkins.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I think the series as a whole started out not really having much of a target demographic past people who were interested in history and would have been amused to see a different perspective on it, but as it got more and more popular, that's changed.

Yes, none of us all fit into one box, but the vast majority of the fandom is female, but I don't believe sexual orientation was ever a contributing factor into the thought process. Age I also don't think was as big of a deal, but it definitely is aimed at people who are at least mentally mature enough to grasp historical jokes, parody, and sarcasm.

idk, my two cents before rushing off to class

[identity profile] nutburger.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I KNOW there are male fans here. Come on guys, speak up!

I think that Himaruya started this for fun really. I don't think he was really thinking about who would like this series when he started. I know that females are the majority of the fandom, but the sexuality doesn't really matter, in my opinion.

[identity profile] fairykingaub.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhm... I'd like to answer but I'm gender queer. So I really don't know what which to pick.

[identity profile] tsukinochiyuki.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
OH! PROPS TO THA MALE FAN. Er... Hopefully that wasn't just a female fan who clicked it incorrectly... haha, though I'm female!

As dunno if sexuality has much to do with it, but on the other hand, Hidekaz has created a world... Full of mainly men. (腐女 are bound to pick up on that, regardless of fandom.) Though what attracts the most people to Hetalia, I think, would be the history; though it's not as accurate as could be, it's pretty interesting. (codpiece!)

Aaand, I remember reading something about the LJ comm. having wayyy more females than males though, I don't know where. -runs off before being bricked-

[identity profile] fairykingaub.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
But 22-25 age wise.

[identity profile] ciilantro.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
but these three seem like the most basic and least intrusive

Idk man I think asking someone about their sexual orientation is pretty intrusive

And why would sexuality have to do with anything

That fan, so bad at clicking correctly

[identity profile] ninja-nutjob.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry about that XD

I agree about the LJ comment.

(TO OP: Perhaps posting something like this on a more gender-neutral place like Facebook would get you an honest answer? I can tell you that pretty much almost only females will take the time to vote.)

[identity profile] diplopod.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Uh... Pansexual (leaning towards gay) male here? orz

Like [livejournal.com profile] acire666 said, I don't think Himaruya had any specific audience in mind when he started. It might seem like the series is aimed at girls because of all the male characters, but I hear he didn't know how to draw females so well way back when and that's why there are so few female characters now. But I'd put my money on him just drawing the strips for fun and not aiming it at any specific audience.

Maybe that's changed, but I'm not even going to try and guess what's going on in Himaruya's head now. BUT Studio Deen's for that matter... I would guess they are marketing it towards the female audience in Japan at this point, rather than history nerds, though attracting them too is an added bonus.

Ahh, I'm sure someone else will come along and say what I want to say a thousand times better. I should shut up now.

/edits over 9000 times
Edited 2010-06-21 23:23 (UTC)

[identity profile] julesie-g.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm female, twenty years old and I voted other.
My sexual orientation is asexual. =)

[identity profile] fuzzlekins.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm asexual. Sex is just icky to me, yet I still read yaoi doujinshi, why?

Probably aromantic as well, but leaning towards hetero.

But yeah most of the fans I've seen are female but I know of at least three, only one irl.

[identity profile] powderthefox.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Oohoo, I feel proud to see my age group take the lead so fast. Go wannabe-adults (18-21).

This is an interesting thought because I've always wondered how true the general assumption of our fanbase is.
As for me, I'm a straight female, yeah, but I've never actually been a yaoi-lover/fujoshi-type person. Not that I dislike it (I wouldn't be in this fandom if I did), but because I'm so picky I've just never happened to like what was out there. Even in Hetalia there's only 2 or 3 pairings I actively love (one of which is het anyway).

Shipping and yaoi have been and still are the last things on my mind. Me, I'm just here for the history, the stereotypes, the satire, and the lulz. ♥

[identity profile] juliet-ros.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
The comment I heard most at Anime North was that Hetalia fans were all "yaoi obsessed females" and that we're "becoming the new narutards."

But I did see boys at a Hetalia panel I went to, so I know male Hetalia fans exist. Plus, I got my boyfriend reading Hetalia (one point for me~ although he could always turn out to be a figment of my imagination). :)

I find most fandoms tend to manifest on LJ. (If it has a fandom, it has a LJ community.)

[identity profile] juliet-ros.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Asexual with a France icon. You, mademoiselle, are awesome. :)

[identity profile] diplopod.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
You can change your answers (http://www.livejournal.com/poll/?id=1581860&mode=enter) if you picked the wrong one. o/
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[identity profile] maikichelorrain.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Sex is just icky to me, yet I still read yaoi doujinshi, why?
Cause fiction sex is far more interesting than real sex (more seriously, maybe because we're not involved in the process?)

+ 1 for asexual aromantic.
I feel less lonely tonight :)

[identity profile] lthemilkeater.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
OH GODS, YOUR POLL MAKES ME FEEL LIKE SUCH A LONELY BOY NOW. OH SO LONELY. "OTL

[identity profile] mintyredmagic.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
M' female, 18 years old, aromantic and with a social phobia.

And for me Hetalia is not only yaoi, but more fun and a posibility to learn more about the world :)

[identity profile] kanrakuen.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi, I'm the male/bisexual up there, 23 years old. Omg, I feel like a freak. Seriously.

[identity profile] tamabonotchi.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Being a teenager, I find the 2nd question on sexual orientation to be a bit difficult to answer, because not all of us have that set in stone. I see way too many teenagers claim to be homosexual or bisexual and really, it was just hormones, or they were just saying it because they had one crush on the same sex.
I've actually seen girls who only look 12 or so with Hetalia merch. @o@
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[personal profile] yuuago 2010-06-21 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Male, 24, queer-identified.

I'd suspect the major demographic is female, late teens, varied orientation. Dunno' what the original audience might have been intended as, but that's what I've seen around, and it's been so as long as I've been in the fandom (though the average age seems to have dropped recently... maybe 's just my imagination)

[identity profile] lthemilkeater.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I never thought about the fact that he may not have been able to draw girls so well, but it makes so much sense. At least, I'm in a similar situation with that, I dunno. >_>

[identity profile] rhambling.livejournal.com 2010-06-21 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
17(18 in two months) year-old, homosexual female.

I don't think Himaruya had a target when he started and still doesn't care, I think he just likes shonen-ai. Anyway, Susume out does Hetalia in the gayness factor.

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